Reformed Churchmen

We are Confessional Calvinists and a Prayer Book Church-people. In 2012, we remembered the 350th anniversary of the 1662 Book of Common Prayer; also, we remembered the 450th anniversary of John Jewel's sober, scholarly, and Reformed "An Apology of the Church of England." In 2013, we remembered the publication of the "Heidelberg Catechism" and the influence of Reformed theologians in England, including Heinrich Bullinger's Decades. For 2014: Tyndale's NT translation. For 2015, John Roger, Rowland Taylor and Bishop John Hooper's martyrdom, burned at the stakes. Books of the month. December 2014: Alan Jacob's "Book of Common Prayer" at: http://www.amazon.com/Book-Common-Prayer-Biography-Religious/dp/0691154813/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1417814005&sr=8-1&keywords=jacobs+book+of+common+prayer. January 2015: A.F. Pollard's "Thomas Cranmer and the English Reformation: 1489-1556" at: http://www.amazon.com/Thomas-Cranmer-English-Reformation-1489-1556/dp/1592448658/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1420055574&sr=8-1&keywords=A.F.+Pollard+Cranmer. February 2015: Jaspar Ridley's "Thomas Cranmer" at: http://www.amazon.com/Thomas-Cranmer-Jasper-Ridley/dp/0198212879/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1422892154&sr=8-1&keywords=jasper+ridley+cranmer&pebp=1422892151110&peasin=198212879

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Saturday, October 6, 2012

"Creedal Imperative" by Dr. Carl Trueman

http://reformedforum.org/podcasts/ctc248/?utm_source=Reformed+Forum+General&utm_campaign=ac044246f7-2012_10_Newsletter&utm_medium=email

Creeds and Confessions in the Contemporary Church

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On this episode, we welcome Rev. Dr. Carl R. Trueman to discuss the important role of creeds and confessions in the church through his book The Creedal Imperative. Dr. Trueman is the Paul Woolley Professor of Historical Theology and Church History at Westminster Theological Seminary and Pastor of Cornerstone Orthodox Presbyterian Church in Ambler, PA. Dr. Trueman brings his critical thought and historic sensitivity to this important plea to many conservative evangelicals.

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Saturday, May 12, 2012

Vetting Elites & Politicians: Mixed Messages on Marriage

        An interesting article is posted by “Chaplain Mike” at: http://www.internetmonk.com/archive/mixed-marriage-messages. Chaplain Mike challenges us about Bill Clinton (serial adulterer), John Edwards (adultery with a “love child”), Herman Cain (alleged improprieties), and Newt Gingrich (serial adulteries). As Chaplain Mike concludes, “Now that primary voters have weeded out the adulterers and philanderers…[emphasis added]” What do these men have to say—with any moral authority—on the issues of marriage, fidelity, honor, dignity, vows, integrity and as examples? 

                  Chaplain Mike then offers a review of Mr. Barak Obama and Mr. Mitt Romney. Both men are heterosexual, traditional and creditably faithful in their own marriages and families, but both are diametrically opposed on the issue of homoerotic and civil partnerships. One gets mixed signals, as Mike asserts.

          Yesterday, we called for the “vetting” and “review” of elites
by elites (highly educated, Confessional, Reformed Churchmen)
yesterday at:
http://reformationanglicanism.blogspot.com/2012/05/cultural-elites-and-confessional.html.

         While we were thinking about media, Hollywood, journalistic, and academic types, the same review should be applied to political elites—our city, state and national leaders. If they wish to speak to moral issues in public, let them be reviewed publicly.

                  Let the vetting and review continue.


                  Here's Chaplain Mike.

Mixed Marriage Messages


12 May 2012
What an interesting cast of characters and what a conflicted conversation we’ve had in recent history in American presidential politics when it comes to the subject of marriage.
It wasn’t too long ago, we had public hearings about adulterous liaisons in the Clinton White House.
This year we are being treated to the spectacle of former Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards’s trial, in which he is accused of soliciting and secretly spending over $925,000 to cover up his adultery.
Herman Cain, Republican hopeful, suspended his campaign when he could not overcome revelations of a 13-year adulterous affair and numerous allegations of sexual harassment by some of his female employees.
Likewise, on the campaign trail this past year fellow Republican Newt Gingrich had to deal constantly with public scrutiny of his marital and extra-marital affairs. Wed three times, his two previous marriages ended in divorce after he had affairs with younger women, once when his wife was seriously ill.
I guess it could be worse. France just elected Francois Hollande, the first French president to enter office unmarried and living with his partner. Just imagine how that would play in Peoria.
Well, at any rate, now it looks as though it will be President Obama vs. Governor Romney in the U.S. November election.
When it comes to marriage, conservative Christians get mixed messages from both.
On the one hand, you have Mitt Romney, the presumed Republican candidate, who married his teenage sweetheart and has had a long traditional heterosexual marriage. He affirms his support for marriage between one man and one woman for life and says he believes the federal government should codify the institution in law. His faith is the basis for this position, he says. Mr. Romney is a Mormon, a faith that now strongly emphasizes conservative “family values,” but which was once notorious for its practice of polygamy (“plural marriage”).
Mormons officially practiced polygamy from the 1830′s until 1890. Certain Mormon sects even today continue the practice and criticize the main church body for abandoning a fundamental tenet of their faith. In 1856, the Republican party which Romney now represents had an anti-Mormon plank in its platform that berated “the twin relics of barbarism – polygamy and slavery.” In 1857-58 a conflict known as “The Utah War” saw U.S. military forces occupy the Territory of Utah under the charge of sedition and failing to honor U.S. laws (including monogamous marriage). Under constant pressure from the government, the LDS church officially changed its stance on plural marriage in 1890, when church President Willard Woodruff issued a manifesto urging Mormons to follow the laws of the land with regard to marriage.
Today the LDS church is overwhelmingly supportive of monogamous, heterosexual marriage, and Romney has conferred with leaders of the Mormon church regularly over the years about how he should approach such public issues as abortion and gay marriage so as to stay in line with church teachings. Will his faith commitment pose a problem for evangelical Christians? Although orthodox believers might envy the strong family morals Mormons promote, they still consider them theologically outside the pale of genuine Christianity, and supporting a member of a “cult” may be more than some can stomach.
For a detailed history of Romney’s actual actions regarding issues related to gay rights and marriage, see this LA Times piece. Those on the right tend to think Romney is a waffler when it comes to most political decisions and his record on gay issues may give them some ammunition to question how robust his convictions truly are.
It will be interesting to see how conservative Christians spin this. Unable to agree with Gov. Romney on doctrines of his religion and suspicious of him as a politician, I assume they will nonetheless support him based in part on his conservative social position regarding marriage. They will do this even though his position grows out of his faith, with which they disagree, and even though they see him as a political opportunist rather than as a man of real convictions.

On the other hand, you have President Obama, who is a Christian, and who also has a traditional, heterosexual marriage. He has said repeatedly that his position on gay marriage has been “evolving,” but the direction of that evolution has been clear.

The president has taken some significant steps toward advancing gay rights. His administration moved to stop defending the Defense of Marriage Act, signed by President Clinton, which defines marriage as the legal union of one man and one woman. And he did assist in bringing an end to the “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy in the U.S. military. So, although he has supported traditional marriage, and in statements has even assigned special significance to it because of his Christian faith, it is clear that he has been “evolving” toward acceptance of gay marriage. He confirmed that this week.
Like Mr. Romney, President Obama said that he came to his position via his faith. He specifically cited the “Golden Rule” taught by Jesus and said that Christian faith should not only be defined by Christ sacrificing himself for us, but also by Christians treating others as they would like to be treated.
It is unlikely that conservative Christians will do anything but condemn this. Frankly, most of the public voices I have heard from the “Christian Right” really don’t trust in President Obama’s faith and never have, and it has been rare to hear anyone engage him or take him seriously on that level. There is too much suspicion about his political motives and agendas.

According to a report in the Washington Post, the President’s announcement is already mobilizing Christians to support Gov. Romney: “Pastors in Ohio, North Carolina, Florida and other swing states are readying Sunday sermons inveighing against same-sex unions, while activist groups have begun laying plans for social media campaigns, leaflet drives and other get-out-the-vote efforts centered on the same-sex marriage issue.”
As one prominent gay marriage opponent and activist stated, “We are going to make this our key issue: the attack on marriage.”
Nevertheless, the piece also points out an ongoing uncertainty among those in the religious right that Gov. Romney is fully committed to this fight. They point to statements in recent days that he supports allowing gay couples to adopt children and that he does not view same-sex marriage as a religious issue.

• • •
So, U.S. Christians, these will be your choices when it comes to presidential candidates and their views on marriage. Now that primary voters have weeded out the adulterers and philanderers, we’re left with two people with positions that conservative Christians are going to have a hard time trusting or supporting without holding their noses.

Wednesday, April 11, 2012

Culture Shock: Moving From an Evangelical to Reformed Church

The Rev. Dr. R. Scott Clark (D.Phil., Oxford University).  Professor of Church History, Westminster Seminary California.  Author of the must-buy, must-have, must-read, and must-ponder volume, Recovering the Reformed Confessions. Phillipsburg, NJ: Presbyterian and Reformed, 2008.  Print.
Church Campanologist, our English friend, has posted the following at: http://churchmousec.wordpress.com/2012/04/11/culture-shock-moving-from-an-evangelical-to-a-reformed-church/#comment-7864.  Thank you, my English friend, for posting this.  Of course, the same issues are posed to those transitioning to old school, Confessional and Prayer Book services.  We most strongly recommend purchasing Dr. Clark's volume.

Culture shock: moving from an Evangelical to a Reformed church

"Dr R Scott Clark has been a professor at Westminster Seminary California (in Escondido) since 1997, where he teaches Church History and Historical Theology. He is the author of Recovering the Reformed Confession and contributes to a variety of theological publications and books. He also serves as Associate Pastor at Oceanside United Reformed Church. (If you are in San Diego County, it would seem a good place to go for Sunday worship.) My Reformed readers remember his late, lamented — now deleted – Heidelblog.

"In an article for R C Sproul’s Ligonier Ministries’ Tabletalk Magazine, ‘Pilgrims and Their Hosts’, Clark describes the ecclesiastical culture shock which occurs when Evangelicals attend a Reformed (Calvinist) church. Clark himself is an ex-evangelical. There are messages here for both Evangelicals and Reformed church members. Emphases mine below.

There are about sixty-million evangelicals in North America. By contrast, the confessional Reformed communions number fewer than one million members. One effect of these disproportionate numbers is that the theology, piety, and practice of American evangelicals shape the expectations of many Christians. That ethos is the product of a series of religious revivals that began in the eighteenth century and continued through the nineteenth century. These two episodes … were both organized around various kinds of religious experience. They differed on how to arrive at that experience and even on what the experience means. Nevertheless, the common thread of religious experience, whether it be a sort of direct encounter with the risen Christ or a conversion experience at the anxious bench, ties them together. Since the early eighteenth century, all American evangelicals have been shaped by a desire to have an intense, personal religious experience."

Wednesday, February 22, 2012

Confessional Evangelicalism? Really?

What dost thou believe and why?
http://www.booksandculture.com/articles/webexclusives/2012/february/confessional.html

Confessional Evangelicalism by Dave Strunk

I grew up in a Southern Baptist church three hours from the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, and I never said the Apostles' Creed growing up. I recall a time in high school English class when I was reading the part of John Proctor from the famous Arthur Miller play The Crucible, and I mispronounced Pontius Pilate, having grown up never pronouncing Pilate's first name. My classmates gave me a hard time. "I thought you were a Christian," they exclaimed.

Well, at this point in my life, I'd say I had a real and enduring faith in Jesus Christ, but I was ignorant of one of the oldest statements of Christian belief. It's that same Christian idiosyncrasy that makes Albert Mohler, president of Southern, an odd choice to defend what the editors call "Confessional Evangelicalism" in Four Views on the Spectrum of Evangelicalism.

In essence, Mohler's defense of confessional evangelicalism is indistinct from a more generic yet still orthodox version of evangelicalism. Mohler does an excellent job, as always, of defending evangelicalism against its foes on the left and right. What Mohler fails to do, though, is to offer a compelling apologia for the benefits found in confessional evangelicalism.

Strengths of Mohler's Arguments


Discussion of faith, denominational,
theological and confessional
boundaries
Mohler succeeds in defining evangelicalism in general by appealing to historical, phenomenological, and normative (theological) definitions. Briefly, he capably traces how evangelicalism got started and shows the early theological and practical emphases that occurred after World War II. He then discusses how in popular culture the word "evangelicalism" is defined, albeit with some truth but many misunderstandings. Lastly, Mohler begins to hint at the "confessional" qualifier when he states, "evangelicalism refers to that movement of Christian believers who seek a conscious convictional continuity with the theological formulas of the Protestant Reformation." This well-stated definition is what I thought the entire chapter would be about. It wasn't. Mohler went on to continue to frame a typically evangelical theology, though without much reference to the Reformation with the exception of a few doctrinal issues.

These discussions come in the familiar mathematically baptized language of centered and bounded sets. The idea is that evangelicals can unite around a center but still need a boundary to establish who isn't an evangelical. First-level doctrines—the Trinity, the nature of Christ, substitutionary atonement, justification by faith alone—are things all evangelicals can agree about at the center, and they also constitute the boundary. These first-level doctrines, Mohler argues, come from the great church councils that worked hard against heresy. Those who don't assent to these first-level doctrines aren't evangelicals. Second- and third-level doctrines—baptism, views of eschatology, etc.—are theological issues that evangelicals can disagree about while maintaining fellowship with one another as evangelicals.

They don't define the center or the boundary, necessarily, but are inside the boundary nonetheless.

 
What is
American evangelicalism?
The strength of Mohler's account lies in how he positions evangelicalism. Every theological issue isn't the boundary, for that would be fundamentalism. On the other hand, evangelicalism doesn't lack a boundary, for that would be Protestant liberalism. Mohler defends evangelicalism in this appropriate way, as the center-bounded set.

My own denomination, the Evangelical Presbyterian Church (EPC), has attempted something like this center-bounded set. We have actually codified what we call "essentials." This comes from the oft-cited phrase (the origin of which is subject to debate), "in essentials, unity; in non-essentials, liberty; in all things, charity." These "essentials" are Mohler's first-level doctrines, including the authority of Scripture, the Trinity, salvation by and in Christ alone, and Christ's second coming. Other theological issues are deemed "non-essential" though that doesn't mean they aren't important.

It's the other theological issues that begin to form the distinction between what makes someone an evangelical and what makes someone a confessional evangelical. Mohler doesn't tread here, though. While he defines what confessional evangelicalism isn't, he doesn't adequately define what it is.

Weaknesses of Mohler's Arguments


A must-read.
"Recovering the
Reformed Confession" by
R. Scott Clark,
D.Phil., Oxford
In my estimation, it isn't that Mohler misrepresents confessional evangelicalism; rather, he largely ignores it. For instance, he doesn't even mention a famous confession or creed. He does refer to the councils of Nicea, Constantinople, and Chalcedon, but he never explicitly outlines the content of the creeds that resulted from those councils. He mentions the importance of justification by faith alone, but never discusses the great Reformation-era statements of faith. Even with regard to his own Calvinist predilections, he doesn't mention the Westminster Standards or The London Baptist Confession of Faith.

Isn't the point of confessional evangelicalism that our beliefs, worship, and church practice are rooted in the confessional history of the church? If one wants to adopt the mantle of evangelical but also claim the qualifier confessional, then the confessional history matters, whether it be Lutheran, Reformed, Anglican, or some other variety. Isn't the point that generic evangelicalism is given color and flavor with its convictions rooted in the past?

C.S. Lewis alludes to this in his preface to Mere Christianity, where he talks of Christianity as a large hallway with several doors: "If I can bring anyone into that hall I shall have done what I attempted. But it is in the rooms, not in the hall, that there are fires and chairs and meals." The "confessional" of confessional evangelicalism has several of those rooms, but many of them have that warm fireplace with the nice drink of choice. When Mohler discusses his own tradition in the SBC, he discusses it in relation to rooting out non-evangelicals. He doesn't promote it as the rich, warm fireplace. Mohler even admits as much when he lauds the birth of 20th-century evangelicalism: "[Early evangelical leaders] set out to establish an evangelical platform that minimized denominational differences—those pesky second-order doctrines."

Characteristics of Confessional Evangelicalism


"No Creed but Christ,"
the Creedless and Confessional-less
Baptacostals
This is where I have to depart from Mohler's account of confessional evangelicalism. Despite sharing the same center of evangelicalism, confessional evangelicals believe denominations and traditions still matter. While Mohler would likely agree, given his place in the SBC, he does not accentuate this fact in his essay. There are plenty of reasons to speculate why, but the simplest might be that, typically, Baptist denominations typically do not emphasize confessions and creeds.

So the reader is left with an implicit question: What does constitute a confessional evangelical, or a confessionally evangelical church? Some characteristics to consider as to the confessional qualifier:

1. Denominations. Confessional evangelicalism still places a value on denominations. Because we are evangelical, we will always seek commonality with other evangelicals, but our individual denomination will nevertheless continue to be meaningful. Denominations will have enduring value because they group churches together in theology and mission and practice of worship. Indeed, the practice of faith within the denomination will likely have more meaning than simply being trans-denominational.

2. Reformation-rooted theology. Confessional evangelicals will adhere to justification by faith alone, and yet they will also know why they adhere to a certain position on the Lord's Supper. It's not being a sacramentalist that makes someone a confessional, but knowing why he is a sacramentalist. Is he Zwinglian? Calvinistic? Lutheran?

3. Near-Center theology. A confessional evangelical will care about conserving doctrines that aren't just about the center but are nevertheless very close to it. The issue of contention will, no doubt, be the particular confession or tradition at stake. Not everyone will have the same answer as to what constitutes "near-center." However, in my tradition, that means Calvinistic soteriology matters highly. Furthermore, a view of covenant theology—how the Bible is one story told from beginning to end—matters highly. In short, some sort of historic confession from long-dead saints is vital. And though confessions aren't Scripture, a confessional evangelical will care deeply about historic truths and articulations of biblical truth, because they act as a guide from those saints of old.

Confessions and creeds have acted as those sort of guides, and their theological content has been expansive of the typical evangelical core doctrines. And while I don't necessarily agree with Lutheran confessions, I can still share the moniker of being a confessional evangelical with a Lutheran with whom I also share the center.

1662 Book of Common Prayer
Used in Church of England
till the 1970s.  The 1559 Book of Common
Prayer was used from 1559-1662
4. Ancient liturgical practices. Generally, confessional evangelicals will pay attention to the church calendar. The seasons—Advent, Lent, Holy Week, Pentecost—shape the church as it orients its life and corporate worship rhythms around the life of Christ. This is an ancient practice, and it keeps the idea of confessional truth always before a confessionally evangelical church.

In that same vein, a confessionally evangelical church will likely practice a gospel rhythm of liturgy in corporate worship. The generic evangelical church liturgy is a block of songs, announcements, sermon, and closing song. A confessionally evangelical liturgy will structure the service to rehearse the gospel more clearly in the structure itself. In some cases, this liturgy is pre-formed by the denomination itself (e.g., evangelical Anglican churches). At our church, we do this by certain elements among many others: a call to worship, a confession of sin and assurance of pardon, a prayer of Thanksgiving and intercession, the Lord's Prayer, reading the sermon text and the sermon, and a benediction. In short, confessionally evangelical worship will balance the immanence of God's nearness to the transcendence of God's mystery and will seek to do so within the very form, and not just the content, of Christian corporate worship.

Conclusion


So who might have been better qualified to reach back a little further and offer the appropriate defense of confessional evangelicalism? Consider Michael Horton or Timothy Keller. These are just two of the well-known figures who would have been more natural fits to defend confessional evangelicalism than Mohler. Even so, it's not my particular brand of confessional evangelicalism that makes someone a confessional evangelical. I share the same evangelical heritage and convictions that characterized 20th-century evangelicals such as Carl Henry and John Stott and Billy Graham. Indeed, I share the evangelical convictions that inspired George Whitefield and John Wesley.

It's just that I go back even further than that—to the Reformation and, further still, to the creeds from the Patristic era. In other words, confessional evangelicals seek a little more continuity with the past than what a generic evangelical might.

In the final chapter of The Rise of Evangelicalism, Mark Noll, having recounted the history of the First Great Awakening and its major figures, notes how evangelicalism has never flourished as an intellectual movement. Noll says that one of the major reasons for this has been evangelical insistence on innovation, and a shedding of church tradition and ecclesiology. Intellectualism comes from the past, Noll asserts. But since one of the marks of evangelicalism has been personal conversion and the new birth, evangelicals will attempt all manner of things to reach the lost. The ironic byproduct of a preoccupation with the perils of the present, though, has been a detachment of the things of the past.

Discontinuity with the past seems to be traceable to the evangelical origins of the First Great Awakening.
What confessional evangelicals seek, then, is a mix of evangelical core doctrines rooted a little further in the past.

As evangelicals, we share a fixed center on the person and Gospel of Jesus Christ. We agree with all those forebears who made the main things the main things. The simple reality is that we also want to recover some of the things that early evangelicals discarded. Because much of that past is still important too.

Dave Strunk is a pastor at Cherry Creek Presbyterian Church in Denver. He earned degrees from the University of Tennessee and Denver Seminary. He blogs at The Redemptive Angle.

Sunday, February 12, 2012

The Escondido Theology: A Reformed Response to Two Kingdom Theology by John Frame

A serious, significant and wide assault has been launched by the Rev. Mr. John Frame, Reformed Seminary, Orlando, FL against the entire faculty of Reformed theologians, historians and other professionals at Westminster Seminary, Escondido, FL. 

http://www.amazon.com/Escondido-Theology-Reformed-Response-Kingdom/dp/1937300005/ref=cm_rdp_product



The Escondido Theology: A Reformed Response to Two Kingdom Theology by John Frame

Amazon's Editorial Review says:


Review


Dr. John Frame has taken up the theological issue of Two Kingdom Theology and demonstrated his qualifications in addressing this popular view currently being advocated by various Reformed professors at Westminster Seminary in California. Dr. Frame provides critical insight and analysis of each Professor s published views advocating this doctrinal teaching. The tone and attitude of Dr. Frame is distinctively Christian and his response is clearly Reformed. Whether you advocate for or against Two Kingdom Theology, this book must be read prior to making any final determination as to the biblical and Reformed teaching on the subject. --Dr. Kenneth Gary Talbot President, Whitefield Theological Seminary

Frame has lived to see a vocal segment of the robust, rich tradition in which he was educated transformed into a narrow sectarianism that anathematizes other orthodox, Bible-believing Christians; elevates theological and church tradition to near equal status with God s Word; and diminishes that Word as the norm for all of life and thought. This book is the agonizing jeremiad of an older prophet who sadly diagnoses a desiccating illness of a friend and offers a prescription for a wholesome healing. Dr. P. Andrew Sandlin President, Center for Cultural Leadership --Dr. P. Andrew Sandlin President, Center for Cultural Leadership

In these pages John M. Frame clarifies in rather crystal clear terms what many of us have suspected for years: that the Escondido theologians, though claiming the Reformed heritage, are nonetheless out of accord with many of its most fundamental tenets. Broad in treatment, penetrating in scholarly analysis, and avoiding ad hominem, Frame builds a persuasive case the entire Protestant church should take the time to investigate. The sections that scrutinize the two kingdoms perspective of the Escondido teachers show especially the extent to which they have compromised a staple of Calvin s thought: the Lordship of God over all things. Dr. John Barber Pastor, Cornerstone Presbyterian Church --Dr. John Barber Pastor, Cornerstone Presbyterian Church


About the Author


Dr. John Frame is presently Professor of Systematic Theology and Philosophy at Reformed Theological Seminary in Orlando, Florida. He previously served as a Professor at both Westminster Seminary in Philadelphia and then as a founding faculty member at Westminster Seminary in Escondido, California.

Saturday, February 11, 2012

Charles Hodge, Pride of Princeton

Charles Hodge: The Pride of Princeton

audio: download
Dr. W. Andrew Hoffecker describes the life and influence of Charles Hodge, one of the giants of American Presbyterianism. Dr. Hoffecker has written a fantastic biography titled Charles Hodge: Pride of Princeton, which has been published by Presbyterian and Reformed Publishing.

Monday, July 4, 2011

AMiE: A Blogger Raises Concerns about AMiE

Church Leadership: Recognising and respecting authority and why AMiE makes me more than nervous

No. Amie, isn’t somebody I have a crush on. The Amie I am referring to is actually the Anglican Mission in England.

If you would like the conservative Anglican explanation about what it is you should read this. The post is coloured in a way that is very much favourable to the formation.

If you would like to read an Evangelical criticism, the Fulcrum statement is worth your time, even though the website is as ugly as a turd. That’s the background.
This post is a look at AMiE seen through the lens of a sympathetic conservative who understands why it was created but who is distressed at the development for a number of reasons: It undermines the larger churches witness and the witness of the conservative wing particularly. In my view it actually goes against Gods word in that it undermines the authority we have been commanded to adhere to. Finally, because of the first and second, it undermines the authority and the strength of the leaders and preachers (and their witness) who lead congregations within FCA in the UK.

Unusually insightful comedienne

The Guardians religious affairs correspondent offered a provocative, witty and above all satirical view of the AMiE issue in her divine dispatches this week. It’s a rather spunky Britney Spears video entitled: If you seek Amy. Do watch it as it’s the best illustration about how this all looks to an outsider. (Edit: Note minute 2:43 and onward is key)

The creation of Amie follows the creation of FoCA, but all the similar sounding joviality jokes aside, I think Riazat, through the video, offers a poignant criticism of the formation of AMiE. Sadly it also shows how she views the people who are involved in actions which tend toward disobeying what they themselves hold up to be the most important thing to guide our lives and conduct, namely the teachings of the Bible.

I say sadly not because Riazat misunderstands what Amie means to the conservative leaning churches desire in asking for alternative oversight, (I think she doesn’t really care about them), but it is sad because it reflects back to the conservatives what they have done, namely: sully the witness of the church through seeming holier than thou, rather than pointing to Jesus. They think they are pointing to Jesus by doing exactly what they did, but obviously somebody didn’t get the message. That’s the fault of the communicator.

But it does bare saying that the accusation of pharisaic “better than yours” nature of AMiE is accurate in at least the sense that the conservatives have decided to disrespect.

For more, see:
http://realgrasshopper.wordpress.com/2011/07/01/church-leadership-recognising-and-respecting-authority-and-why-amie-makes-me-more-than-nervous/