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Friday, May 27, 2011

Two Anabaptist,Non-Confessionalists, Not Liturgicals Talk Theology: Piper and Warren

A hat tip to another Anabaptist site on this index below:

Topic index of the interview:
0:00 Introduction
3:29 The glory of God.
7:16 David Wells and the weight of God’s reality.
9:00 Would you write the book the same today?
12:00 The sovereignty of God.
18:47 How do you speak of God’s sovereignty in the presence of tragedy?
22:01 How do all things work for bad for those who reject Christ?
24:14 Do you hedge on Larry King?
27:00 Unconditional election.
30:18 The importance of eternity.
34:42 How do you conceive of eternity: in heaven, on earth?
38:53 What is the Gospel?
42:00 What did Jesus achieve on the cross?
43:40 Repentance.
50:50 Why don’t you call yourself a Calvinist?
53:09 Propitiation.
54:39 Prevenient grace.
1:00:01 Total depravity.
1:03:00 Hell.
1:09:10 Eternal destiny of those who never heard.
1:12:40 The extent of the atonement.
1:17:00 Do unbelievers always do the devil’s bidding?
1:18:40 Your view of the Bible.
1:22:40 Expository preaching and doctrinal depth.
1:28:10 Rick Warren’s sacred trust

David Virtue carries this at:

John Piper Interviews Rick Warren About Doctrine
May 27 2011

In an interview conducted earlier this month, John Piper asked Rick Warren to address the concerns some critics have for The Purpose Driven Life. John based the interview on 20 pages of notes, asking in-depth questions related to specific statements from the book. Why is The Purpose Driven Life more theocentric than Christocentric? What role does the Holy Spirit have in our transformation? Does Rick's view of God's sovereignty embrace the doctrine of unconditional election?

The refreshing thing about the interview is that John addresses specific doctrinal concerns, and he allows Rick to respond to them directly, offering any clarification. It is the kind of biblical integrity we've all come to expect from John Piper but it is also noteworthy because Rick is rarely asked such direct and honest questions about his doctrinal beliefs.

Here is the interview, courtesy of John Piper's ministry - VIEW IT NOW: or here:

Reformation Anglicanism felt it was "quite rich" when Anabaptist Piper led Warren in a prayer "to avoid" temptation "to pride," a moment of supremacism.  Hubristic. In fact, a moment of laughter.  A genuine leader would have said "We have erred."  What we heard was unctuous Anabaptistic and enthusiastic pietism. Typical for America.  Piper, the Prayer Book illiterate that he is, would be well advised to memorize and use this old BCP prayer:

ALMIGHTY God, Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, Maker of all things, judge of all men; We acknowledge and bewail our manifold sins and wickedness, Which we, from time to time, most grievously have committed, By thought, word, and deed, Against thy Divine Majesty, Provoking most justly thy wrath and indignation against us. We do earnestly repent, And are heartily sorry for these our misdoings; The remembrance of them is grievous unto us; The burden of them is intolerable. Have mercy upon us, Have mercy upon us, most merciful Father; For thy Son our Lord Jesus Christ's sake, Forgive us all that is past; And grant that we may ever hereafter Serve and please thee In newness of life, To the honour and glory of thy Name; Through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen.

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