19 April 1529 A.D. Diet of Speyer, Germany Convened. Reformers called “Protestants” for the first time.
Reformed Churchmen
We are Confessional Calvinists and a Prayer Book Church-people. In 2012, we remembered the 350th anniversary of the 1662 Book of Common Prayer; also, we remembered the 450th anniversary of John Jewel's sober, scholarly, and Reformed "An Apology of the Church of England." In 2013, we remembered the publication of the "Heidelberg Catechism" and the influence of Reformed theologians in England, including Heinrich Bullinger's Decades. For 2014: Tyndale's NT translation. For 2015, John Roger, Rowland Taylor and Bishop John Hooper's martyrdom, burned at the stakes. Books of the month. December 2014: Alan Jacob's "Book of Common Prayer" at: http://www.amazon.com/Book-Common-Prayer-Biography-Religious/dp/0691154813/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1417814005&sr=8-1&keywords=jacobs+book+of+common+prayer. January 2015: A.F. Pollard's "Thomas Cranmer and the English Reformation: 1489-1556" at: http://www.amazon.com/Thomas-Cranmer-English-Reformation-1489-1556/dp/1592448658/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1420055574&sr=8-1&keywords=A.F.+Pollard+Cranmer. February 2015: Jaspar Ridley's "Thomas Cranmer" at: http://www.amazon.com/Thomas-Cranmer-Jasper-Ridley/dp/0198212879/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1422892154&sr=8-1&keywords=jasper+ridley+cranmer&pebp=1422892151110&peasin=198212879
Saturday, April 19, 2014
19 Apr 1529 AD: Diet (Congress) of Speyer, Germany. Reformers Called "Protestants" for 1st Time
19 April 1529 A.D. Diet of Speyer, Germany Convened. Reformers called “Protestants” for the first time.
Saturday, August 31, 2013
"Gunfight at the O.K. Corral" Between 2 English Reformers: Tyndale and Joye
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| William Tyndale and George Joye "The Gunfight at the O.K Corral" |
A 2005 edition is available at: http://www.amazon.com/
We get a "shoot-out" between two Bible translators and early English Reformers: Mr. (Rev.) William Tyndale and Mr. (Rev.) George Joye.
The latter, Mr. Joye, is getting increased visibility in the inquiries.
Here's the "shoot-out" at the "Not-So-OK-Corrale."
Mr. William Tyndale has a conflict with Mr. George Joye. We’ll cover Mr. Tyndale’s remarks in his further notes “To a Christian Reader” (28). Below, we'll attach a Wiki-bio on Mr. Joye, an early English Reformer of the 1520s and early 1530s.
Mr. Tyndale notes of his translation: “...I had taken in hand…compared to the Greek,” but that Mr. Joye “took in hand to correct” Mr. Tydnale’s work without consultation. Off hand, it looks like a peeing contest, but we'll hold a conclusion in suspension.
This was not, according to Mr. Tyndale, “the office of an honest man.” He was publishing his own version of Tyndale “without his name,” that is, Tyndale’s or Joye’s. According to Tyndale, Mr. Joye was playing “boo peep” (28) along with mistranslations that Tyndale did not approve.
Mr. Tyndale objected to Mr. Joye’s translation of the word “resurrection” uniformly throughout the Gospels and Acts.
Ανάστασις, or “resurrection,” was being “translated and published” by Mr. Joye as “the life after this life.” We'll enlarge momentarily.
Mr. Joye had been circulating “these things for a while” (29). He had been sending “secret letters on that side of the sea” that “caused great division among the brethren” (29).
The upshot was that Mr. Joye was, apparently, playing an ancient Docetic card (our word for it, not Tyndale’s or Bray’s), denying the "bodily resurrection of Christ" or the "future resurrection of believers and unbelievers."
Mr. John Frith, an early English Reformer, while in the Tower of London, wrote, according to Tyndale, a “letter before his death that we should warn him and desire him to cease.” Apparently, Mr. Joye was getting a following with his denials.
Mr. Tyndale offers this "textus classicus." For example, John 5.28-29:
28 Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice 29 and come forth—those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of condemnation.
For those who read Greek, we append the following (as an aside, a recent conversation with a TEC cleric of one of their serious seminaries embarrassingly noted that he'd never studied Hebrew, Greek or Latin, but to preserve peace, I held mine and now returning to the point):
28μὴ θαυμάζετε τοῦτο, ὅτι ἔρχεται ὥρα ἐν ἧ πάντες οἱ ἐν τοῖς μνημείοις ἀκούσουσιν τῆς φωνῆς αὐτοῦ 29καὶ ἐκπορεύσονται, οἱ τὰ ἀγαθὰ ποιήσαντες εἰς ἀνάστασιν ζωῆς, οἱ δὲ τὰ φαῦλα πράξαντες εἰς ἀνάστασιν κρίσεως.
Mr. Tyndale states that Mr. Joye is “thrusting clean out this word `resurrection’” (29). He “mocks out the text” (29). Mr. Joye has translated it "life after this life," implying a spiritual departure but no bodily resurrection.
Mr. Tyndale then asserts his public view of the resurrection of Christ and the resurrection to come. It's a vintage and classical statement.
"Wherefore, concerning the resurrection, I protest before God and our Saviour Jesus Christ, and before the universal congregation that believeth in Him, that I believe according to the open and manifest Scriptures and Catholic faith, that Christ is risen again in the flesh which he received of his mother, the Blessed Virgin Mary, and body wherein He died. And we all shall, both good and bad, rise both flesh and body, and appear together before the judgment seat of Christ, to receive every man according to his deeds. And that the bodies of all that believe and continue in the true faith of Christ shall be endued with like immortality and glory as the body of Christ” (29).
That is a good statement by Mr. Tyndale. This is what he alleges Mr. Joye is denying.
Mr. Tyndale importunes 1000s (his word) to examine his [Tyndale's] translation. He has not, he avers, sought “to draw disciples after me” nor sought to “author a sect” (30). Remember, both of these men are fugitives from England for the faith.
Rather, Tyndale states that he has desired “to weed out all that is not planted of the Heavenly Father and to bring down all that lifteth itself up against the knowledge of the salvation that is in the blood of Jesus Christ” (30).
Mr. Tyndale writes “openly,” puts his name to his work and opinions [unlike Mr. Joye], and asks for all to examine his translation. If he has errors, “I will confess my ignorance openly” (31).
While we will look at Mr. George Joye later, we append a Wiki-bio on him.
Apparently, Mr. Joye--after the brouhaha--apologized for the misunderstanding.
Tuesday, August 27, 2013
William's Clebsch's "Prologue" to "England's Earliest Protestants"
It is available at: http://www.amazon.com/Englands-earliest-Protestants-1520-1535-publications/dp/B0007DK7XA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1377565405&sr=8-1&keywords=william+clebsch+england%27s+earliest+protestants
1-10, the Prologue. We bring you a few notes and our interpolated musings.
Revolutions come in history. Augustine of Canterbury in the 7th century brought Roman ecclesiastical governance to the (presumably benighted) Celtic Christians. William the Conqueror ordered up the Norman invasion in the 11th century. The 16th century English Reformation was no minor matter either. It came. (We might now add that it is now gone for England and American Anglicans. Bye, bye.)
Mr. Clebsch tells us that the Reformation proceeds quickly in Switzerland and German but came “rather gently with the English” (1). We would add that Princely support was more available than what Mr. (Henry VIII) Tudor offered.
If 1500 is assumed as the starting point, 8 decades later four things were established:
• Vernacular Bible and worship services throughout the nation
• Monasteries dissolved and disempowered
• Doctrinal revision
• Secure establishment of authority in the Crown and Church
(under the Crown)
A lot of water under that bridge.
1535 marks “the transition point to an era in which royal headship functioned as the mechanism for making changes in the church” (10). If we accept, as we ought, Mr. Jaspar Ridley's point about Mr. Cranmer, Cranmer was unwilling to push Reform if there was no Royal support. Or, put another way, he was not a Luther really.
We would add that a national reformation was a larger challenge than the one Mr. Calvin had at Geneva, a city. Further, Mr. Calvin did not have to deal with Mr. (Henry VIII) Tudor. There were 10,000 churches in England. Mr. Calvin had St. Peter's in Geneva.
1520-1535 is the period of “ideas and deeds” that brought matters to the fore “during this difficult time”—a banned Bible and, in time, a “Gospel rediscovered by Luther” that would rally “Englishmen to martyrdom” (10). Where's Mr. Cranmer. He's at Cambridge and won't appear in biographies until the happenstance (tongue in cheek) meeting at Waltham Abbey in 1529.
We would add: Mr. Cranmer was aged 31 to 46 in this period…still young for theologians. Mr. (Rev. Dr. Prof.) Roger Nicole, two earned doctorates, wisely observed that theologians should write little if anything until the age 50. Never mind the Americans. They routinely dismiss the sage, Dr. Nicole. But, we wish to keep our eyes on Mr. Cranmer in 1520-1535, a formative period.
Mr. Clebsch tells us, humorously in one sense but soberingly in another, that apart from the vernacular New Testament, there “was no theological classic in English” (2). We ask, “not a single one?” Slam dunk on the Brits by Mr. Clebsch.
Even in this challenging period of 1520-1535, men went to the Continent. They were exiles, handicapped by hiding and the heretic hunters like Mr. More. These men wanted to “burn the dross out of the Catholic Church of England” (3). Mr. Tudor, of course, was always “defending whatever faith he authorized in order to strengthen the royal power he exercised.” This might be a bit much, that is, Henry was still a good Romanist or Papist—he just tossed the Pope out of England. In this period, England became the 2.0 Anglican version--Non-Papal Roman Anglicanism, like our Tractarian friends.
As for 1520, Mr. Clebish tells us that the “available evidence” reveals that the early reformers “perceived no great differences between renaissance advocacy of church reform and the new Wittenberg theology” (4). That's quite a claim. We shall see.
These Cambridge dons and a “secret group” at Oxford were discussing Wittenberg’s monastic Reformer. He notes that Luther's "exegetical works" were discussed. What about the 95 Theses?
These Oxbridgensian dons were spreading “an awareness” through the universities.
Another force. “Late Lollardy persuaded the early English Protestants” (4).
Did this awareness/these awarenesses include knowledge of the Imperial ban of 1520 or the Pope’s excommunication of Luther?
In addition to the famous Lollard center at Norwich, other early English Protestants came from “monasteries.” Some were:
• The Prior of the Augustianian Observants at Cambridge who publicly “voiced Protestant principles in Cambridge”
• The Franciscans at Greenwich
• The Prior at Reading
• The monks at Bury St. Edmunds
Other agents of "Early English Protestantism" included some in the professional classes, e.g. lawyers, as well as merchants with their “brisk trade with Hanseatic and other European ports in London…”(5). Although Mr. Clebsch does not say so, in time, Luther’s and Tyndale’s materials would be smuggled into these ports. By 1525, the Bishop of London will hold a public event in front of St. Paul's...to burn Mr. Luther's volumes that entered through English ports. In time, the Papal Roman Anglicans (1.0ers) will burn more than books.
Robert Barnes and George Joy were early Cambridge voices for reform. Where was Cranmer?
Robert Barners “openly demanded church reform at Cambridge” (7). He was demanding “authorization of vernacular Scriptures” (7). However, Barnes would soon fall athwart Henry’s “reactionary policies guided by Stephen Gardiner” (7). Where was Cranmer?
George Joye was captured at Cambridge and “docketed for trial” along with Thomas Bilney (8). Where was Cranmer? Or, was he ignorant of these matters? We infer, gratuitously, a negative.
John Frith was an early Oxford voice. Again, where was Cranmer?
William Tyndale was working on the Continent. Tyndale appears to have been a voice in both schools—"Oxbridge" we call it. What was Cranmer’s doing or saying?
By 1525-1526, the vernacular Bible was opposed, a “posture taken by England’s officialdom.” They were also “rejecting Luther’s teaching” (8). As an aside, a review of Mr. (Bp) John Fisher is ordered up as a counterpoint to this period.
Simon Fish, a London lawyer, was an early voice for reforms. His racy "Supplication for Beggars" got an audience with Mr. Tudor.
William Roy and Jerome Barlowe “versified” Protestant principles also.
By 1530, discussions included the “Real Presence of Christ” in the Holy Communion as well as justification by faith alone and by Christ alone. Where was Mr. Cranmer?
By 1535, the “entire English Bible was circulating openly if still illegally” (9). Also, by 1535, the “unalterably secure element of church reformation was the principle of royal headship.”
We repeat the point earlier: If 1500 is assumed as the starting point, 8 decades later four things were established:
• Vernacular Bible and worship services throughout the nation
• Monasteries dissolved and disempowered
• Doctrinal revision
• Secure establishment of authority in the Crown and Church
(under the Crown)
A lot of water passes under the 8-decades old bridge. And we got an English Bible, English worship services, some doctrinal changes, and an Erastian Church.
Whatever we make of Mr. (Canterbury) Cranmer, he died on March 21, 1556.
The cause? The English Reformation, version 3.0, the Edwardian version. But, never mind, toss the Bible and turn the volume up for the Praise Band.



