Reformed Churchmen

We are Confessional Calvinists and a Prayer Book Church-people. In 2012, we remembered the 350th anniversary of the 1662 Book of Common Prayer; also, we remembered the 450th anniversary of John Jewel's sober, scholarly, and Reformed "An Apology of the Church of England." In 2013, we remembered the publication of the "Heidelberg Catechism" and the influence of Reformed theologians in England, including Heinrich Bullinger's Decades. For 2014: Tyndale's NT translation. For 2015, John Roger, Rowland Taylor and Bishop John Hooper's martyrdom, burned at the stakes. Books of the month. December 2014: Alan Jacob's "Book of Common Prayer" at: http://www.amazon.com/Book-Common-Prayer-Biography-Religious/dp/0691154813/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1417814005&sr=8-1&keywords=jacobs+book+of+common+prayer. January 2015: A.F. Pollard's "Thomas Cranmer and the English Reformation: 1489-1556" at: http://www.amazon.com/Thomas-Cranmer-English-Reformation-1489-1556/dp/1592448658/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1420055574&sr=8-1&keywords=A.F.+Pollard+Cranmer. February 2015: Jaspar Ridley's "Thomas Cranmer" at: http://www.amazon.com/Thomas-Cranmer-Jasper-Ridley/dp/0198212879/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1422892154&sr=8-1&keywords=jasper+ridley+cranmer&pebp=1422892151110&peasin=198212879

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Wednesday, June 27, 2012

Theological Assessment of B.B. Warfield

A wonderful blog, "Pilgrimage to Geneva," although these able thinkers miss it when it comes to the Book of Common Prayer. They get much right, but get this point wrong.  Nontheless, this is a blog to follow.

http://pilgrimagetogeneva.com/2012/06/27/theological-assessment-of-b-b-warfield/

Greenville Presbyterian Theological Seminary
2012 Spring Theology Conference
A Commemoration of Princeton 1812 -2012


Theological Assessment of B. B. Warfield


Dr. Carl Trueman
Professor of Historical Theology and Church History and academic dean/vice president for academic affairs at Westminster Theological Seminary in Philadelphia.

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Wednesday, April 11, 2012

Rev. Paul Levy (Ref21): Reformed Liturgical Incompetence & Ignorance

A young cleric, Rev. Paul Levy
International Presbyterian Church
Blogger, www.Reformation21.org
If an open necked shirt, why
not a Hawaiian shirt, shorts, and flip flops?
On principle, why not a bathrobe and slippers?

Rev. Paul Levy, of the "International Presbyterian Church," offers an odd, confused, and rather broadly "evangelical" statement about Creeds and confessions in worship.  He notes that "written confessions of sin and confession of faith and the Apostles Creed are particularly helpful in screwing good solid theology into the minds and hearts of our people." This has long been known, but Paul was not reared with this.  He apparently is just learning this.  Yet, he unhelpfully opines--again oddly and unhelpfully--that there are "Presbyterians who are really `'wanna be anglicans' and want to legislate for every bit of the service with endless liturgy."  So, toss your hymnbooks, Presbyterians, be consistent, and have all sing whatever lyrics you please.  Yet, you use "written hymns" with 700 plus hymns in the books!  Yet, you  have 33 written chapters in the Westminster Confession.  What's the complaint here of value?  None.  What confused thinking!  Is this the best Paul can offer?  Or Ref21?  Or the Alliance of Confessing Evangelicals?  Or, what does R.C. Sproul, Sr., one of the better voices, know about it? Or, the congregations and followers of these "parachurch" outlets?  Rev. Levy or Churchmen at ACE or Ref21, inter alia, modern Cranmers?  No.  But, then, what does Paul, or what does anyone on the staff or on the board of the Alliance of Confessing Evangelicals, or on the faculties of Westminster or Reformed Seminaries, know about the disciplines, lections, collects, rhythms, and piety of Prayer Book Anglicans?  Answer:  a LARGE ZERO.

Sorry, Paul, or other Reformed readers, but if you choose to make a snarky comment about "wanna be Anglicans" who seek to "legislate every bit of the service with endless liturgy" (as if you haven't), you can and should expect this Marine, a Reformed Anglican, to push back with commensurate and measured force.  Some of us tire of it.

We've learn our Confessional theology from the Reformed.  Thank you.  But we have learned nothing about worship, music and Prayer Book Churchmanship from any of you, anywhere, or anytime.  Frankly, we didn't learn alot about the Bible from you either.  Paul, and Ref21, just stay off the topic of Prayer Book Churchmanship, since all of you know nothing about it.

We saw unfortunate comments recently about Lent 2012 as well and did a push back.

We're also beginning to believe that this Prayer Book incompetence, like Paul's, informs many conservative American Anglicans as well. 

Remedy?  Use the BCP daily 365/52/24/7 for decades. After a few decades of this type of use, return to make further comments.  Of course, there are several hundred books that could be recommended also.  At least the English Puritans were skilled in the Book of Common Prayer, e.g. Richard Baxter.

http://www.reformation21.org/blog/2012/04/what-do-you-believe.php

I was brought up in a church that didn't have a written liturgy. That's not to say there wasn't a liturgy. The argument that we have no set liturgy is ever so slightly ridiculous. Can you imagine getting up and announcing a hymn and saying, 'There are no words. Please feel free to sing along to the tune and ad lib'. The prayers also were pretty much the same every week and you had what was known as the long prayer which struck dread into the heart of every small boy. On occasions you were lifted up to heaven but more often than not it was interminably dull. I seem to have spent quite a number of the prayers with my father's hand clamped around my neck or leg longing for it to end.

Anyway, since coming to IPC, I've been introduced to a light liturgy. There are Presbyterians who are really ''wanna be anglicans'' and want to legislate for every bit of the service with endless liturgy. I'm aware that we live in a culture where there are many people who are not particularly literate and find reading uncomfortable. However, written confessions of sin and confession of faith and the Apostles Creed are particularly helpful in screwing good solid theology into the minds and hearts of our people.

I've learnt to love the Creed; the certainty of it, the joy in confessing our faith with one another. There is a sense in which we should roar with joy after reading it but of course we never would.

We live in an age where people don't know what they believe or why they believe it. In the film Chocolat where one of the main characters was asked 'what do you believe?', this was the reply:

Magic carpet rides, rune magic. Ali Baba and visions of the Holy Mother, astral travel and the future in the dregs of a glass of red wine...Buddha. Frodo's journey into Mordor. The transubstantiation of the sacrament. Dorothy and Toto. The Easter Bunny. Space aliens. The Thing in the closet. The Resurrection and the Life at the turn of a card...I've believed them all at one time or another. Or pretended to. Or pretended not to.

We have certainty in an age of uncertainty. We confess our faith with an army of believers around the world and down through the ages. Next time you say the creed give a cheer and rejoice in rock solid truth

Friday, July 15, 2011

"Cardinal Lig Duncan" and "Pope Al Mohler" on C.J. Mahaney

This blog claims that "Cardinal Ligon Duncan" and "Pope Al Mohler" launch a coordinated defense of their T4G-associate and fellow board member at the Alliance of (actually non-) Confessing Evangelicals.

http://thewartburgwatch.com/2011/07/13/hoodwinked-by-mohler-and-mahaney-2/

Hoodwinked by Mohler and Mahaney

Wed, Jul 13 2011
By deb
Where I once believed people were there to be used, I started thinking of other people first. Josh McDowell




Dateline: Somewhere deep behind enemy lines, Dee and I are embedded with the Assyrian army.

One week ago C.J. Mahaney, President of Sovereign Grace Ministries, stepped down from his ‘bully’ pulpit to take a leave of absence amid turmoil in his “family of churches”. There have been quite a few developments in that short time frame, and they have distracted us from keeping the main thing the main thing, which we define as discovering God’s truth.

It is rare that your humble blog queens can be described as ‘gullible’ and ‘easily deceived’, but we are willing to admit our own human frailties to you, our dear readers. To put it bluntly, we have been hoodwinked! (Feel free to substitute any of the synonyms listed at the end of this post.)

Please accept our sincerest apologizes for falling down on the job and playing into the hands of some scheming ‘master’ minds. FYI — the single quotation marks are significant. As the saying goes, “Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.”

What tipped us off that we have all been played? Did anyone find it odd that Mahaney announced at CLC last Sunday evening that he would be at the SGM Pastors Conference in November? Here’s what inquiring minds want to know – how did he know that he would be there after stepping down for an indefinite period of time?


We also knew  we had been duped after the one-two punch delivered by Al Mohler and Ligon Duncan..  The scheme was confirmed when Duncan made his pronouncement on the Reformation 21 website. Obviously, the ‘Fab Four’ of ‘T4G’ (Together for the Gospel) are going to stick together no matter what, and The Gospel Coalition has its own agenda. However, we were ‘surprised’ to discover that the Alliance of Confessing Evangelicals appears to be in on it, too. After all, Duncan used the blog linked to their website to issue his statement from on “high”.

Let’s begin unraveling this carefully crafted scheme by Mohler, Mahaney and Company. First, Mahaney sends out correspondence to the SGM pastors on July 2, informing them that he plans to step down for a time. Then he posts the same information on the Sovereign Grace Ministries website on July 6 for all to read.


Pope Mohler Issues An Edict

Just two days later (on July 8 ) the Louisville Courier picks up the story and reports on the controversy with this headline – ‘Serious’ charges vs popular pastor, author Mahaney. Does anyone else find it rather ‘odd’ that a Louisville newspaper was reporting on a ministry based in far away Maryland? Why was the Mahaney debacle newsworthy in Kentucky of all places? And calling Mahaney a ‘popular’ pastor is highly questionable. Popular with whom? We sincerely doubt Christians outside Calvinsta circles have ever heard of him. Here is the article for those who may have missed it.

Did you notice that the first word in the headline is in single quotation marks? Why would this journalist find it necessary to put the word ‘serious’ in quotes? Even stranger was the fact that the article contained a hyperlink to an ‘obscure’ blog called The Wartburg Watch. Hmmm….

Just who is Peter Smith, the religion reporter at the Louisville-Courier who believed this story to be ‘newsworthy’? It certainly appears that he and Mohler have a symbiotic relationship because Smith reports on every move the Southern Seminary president makes and Mohler, the “culture warrior” craves media attention. We highly doubt Smith knows anything about our ‘obscure’ blog, which begs the question – was the July 8th newspaper article entirely prewritten by ‘certain’ individuals or was Smith ‘allowed’ to collaborate?

Why would we even question Peter Smith’s integrity as a journalist? Here’s why. Shortly after he reported on the Mahaney debacle, Smith wrote a follow-up piece entitled: “Mohler backs Mahaney, dismisses accusations of abusive leadership”.

Early in the article, Smith quotes Mohler as follows:

"I always have had only the highest estimation of C.J. Mahaney as a man and a minister," Mohler said in an interview — his first public comments on the situation involving Mahaney, one of his fellow leaders in the Reformed, neo-Calvinist movement. "That continues absolutely unchanged. There is nothing in this current situation which would leave me to have even the slightest pause of confidence in him."

But Mohler has already drawn his own conclusions.

He based that on hundreds of pages leaked to the Internet last week, detailing correspondence between Mahaney, his main accuser and former colleague, Brent Detwiler, and other Sovereign Grace leaders.

"There is nothing disqualifying in terms of anything that is disclosed in this," said Mohler, who regularly speaks on programs along with Mahaney. "It’s just evidence we knew all along, that C.J. is human but a deeply committed Christian and a visionary Christian leader."

Again, why is the Louisville rag the only newspaper in the country (as far as we can tell) reporting on this story?

After revealing details of the conflict within SGM, Smith writes:


“Mohler said he saw no reason for Mahaney to take a leave from other leadership positions…
"I assume he would retain every position in leadership," Mohler said. "I expect he should be very quickly returned to leadership of Sovereign Grace."

 Mohler contended that Detwiler has "an obvious vendetta" against Mahaney and attributed the document dump on the Internet to him.”


If Mohler can so callously judge Brent Detwiler, we seriously doubt he has read through the 600 pages of documentation posted on the internet that bring serious charges against Mahaney. Notice that we do not put the word serious in single quotation marks as Smith did.

 Smith goes on to explain:

“The Sovereign Grace network is separate from the Southern Baptist Convention, the affiliate of Southern Seminary, but Mohler praised Mahaney’s group as "one of the most vital movements of church planting and evangelism and church development in this generation…"

Mohler said he knew this practice has had online critics for years.

"Basically there are people who are very uncomfortable with the strong kind of spiritual direction that comes through the Sovereign Grace Ministries," Mohler said. "It’s very hard to criticize it on biblical terms, as you’ll see on most of those Web sites. It basically comes down to the criticism, ‘I don’t like that.’"





So ‘Pope Mohler’ doesn’t like criticism… And with this pronouncement, Mohler has just marginalized any blogger who would dare criticize Sovereign Grace Ministries. Funny thing, Mohler sure knows how to dish it out himself.

Cardinal Duncan Mimicks the Pope

As soon as Ligon Duncan, who hails from the Presbyterian Church of America (PCA), weighed in with a statement that mimicked Pope Mohler’s, our suspicions were confirmed. It was no coincidence that these two T4G leaders came out swinging for their pal CJ on the very same day.

Here are some of Duncan’s choice words, which you can find here.

“I would then encourage you to ignore the assaults of wounded people on attack websites and blogs, and that you discount the opinings of those who have no real knowledge of these matters or relation to SGM or authority to comment upon them, and that you refrain from assuming that you (or they) are in a position to render judgment on these things.”

We believe the propaganda put out by Mohler and Duncan was a coordinated effort to: (1) define the issue as merely a theological dispute between Mahaney and a former colleague (2) dilute the testimonies of the hundreds if not thousands of SGM victims and (3) chastise and marginalize anyone who would dare criticize Mahaney’s ministry (i.e. bloggers).

Concluding Thoughts

Even though Peter Smith ‘appears’ to be in Al Mohler’s back pocket, there is no question that he got one thing right about SGM by confirming – “The movement also emphasizes church discipline and male authority.” That’s what Mohler absolutely LOVES about Mahaney and SGM!!!

Is this information coming from Smith or Mohler? If it’s coming from Mohler, then the church is in BIG trouble because it shows the harshness that is about to be unleashed in reformed Baptist circles. They are dividing the church into two classes – the priest and everybody else. Perhaps it’s time to pack up the babies and grab the old ladies and head for the hills. Mohler’s minions will be doing most of the dirty work. After all, a high percentage of Southern Baptist seminary grads identify themselves as “Calvinistic”.

Synonyms for ‘hoodwinked’: bamboozled, tricked, fooled, screwed, deceived, ripped off, duped, conned, scammed, cheated, swindled, suckered (and other descriptive words too crude to mention in this forum).

Source: Urban Dictionary

Dee’s favorite: played like a bad violin

Thursday, July 14, 2011

Odd Timing: Carl Truman, Ligon Duncan, and C.J. Mahaney

An excellent article by Dr. Carl Truman over at Ref21.  But the subject and timing is somewhat odd, especially after a fellow board member, Dr. Ligon Duncan gave a rather robust, albeit quite premature and uninvestigated,  defense of C.J. Mahaney.  Carl--if making applications here--is spot-on.  We would add that liturgical worship also "circumscribes power" and humbles all, including the "Celebs on the Circuit."

http://www.reformation21.org/blog/2011/07/confessions-can-circumscirbe-p.php

Confessions Can Circumscribe Power - At Least In Theory

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I am working feverishly this summer on a short book commending creeds and confessions to evangelical friends whose desire to make sure the Bible rules supreme leads them to what I consider a misguided but sincere rejection of such documents in their church life. The book is in many ways a very personal take on the matter, shaped by my own experience of non-confessional and confessional churches.

One of the things that I have come to appreciate about a church with a confession is the mechanism this provides for clear circumscription of the powers of the church, her leadership, and her people. As an elder committed to the Westminster Standards, I am mandated to make sure that the peace and unity of the church where I serve is maintained along lines consistent with the system of doctrine and ethics these documents contain. That gives me certain power, though power that can always be checked in accordance with the Book of Church Order by my fellow elders locally, by presbytery, by general assembly and, of course, by the congregation who called me.

Importantly, therefore, the confession circumscribes the power of the eldership. Thus, I must intervene if I know that a congregant is, say, telling people after the service that the resurrection of Christ never happened. That contradicts the teaching I am sworn to uphold. And if a congregant is engaging in criminal activity, I must not only institute church discipline but must also inform the civil authorities. That contradicts the ethics I am sworn to uphold and also impacts my duties as a member of civic society. Yet if a congregant wishes to spend his spare time dressing up as Elvis, drinking zinfandel spritzers or collecting slugs, I have no power to dictate what he should do, whatever my opinion of the wisdom of such endeavours. More seriously, perhaps, I have no power to dictate where congregants should work, how exactly they should vote, to what schools they should send their children, or how often they should make love to their wives and whether that is with or without contraception. If I try to do any of these things, the congregation have a right - in fact, a duty - to ask on what basis I am acting. After all, they did not sign up for any of that when they saw the confession which my church maintains and thus have good reason to be worried that these things are suddenly on the agenda.

In short, confessionalism, when used not simply as a positive statement of public belief but also as a means of circumscribing church power, has much to commend it.

Of course, the system is not perfect. It can still be abused because it is populated by sinful people who fail all the time. But a system with a clearly laid out confession and a polity that links people and leadership to that confession via a set of checks and balances has much to commend it over against the alternatives. Polity and process are tedious; confessions can seem dry and dusty; but, like multivitamins, they can be very helpful in maintaining a healthy body.

Saga of Sovereign Grace Ministries Continues: Baptacostal C.J. Mahaney's Protege and Successor Resigns from Board

C.J. Mahaney's young protege and successor resigns from the Board of Sovereign Grace Ministries (SGM).  Mahaney has come under pressure after a 600-page document dump landed in the inbox of all SGM Pastors (100+).  Al Mohler and Ligon Duncan forcefully defended their "friend" (their word) this week waving off analysis, inquiry, consideration and evaluation.  Larger issues are at bar, to wit: American evangelical "celebrity culture" with young conference followers and hand-wavers...as well as the financial issues and moral temptations in stardom. C.J, though taking a "leave of absence" from SGM to "explore his own sin and pride" (his words), will return in 4 months and will be featured in the mega-conference, "Together for the Gospel," 10-12 April 2012, in Louisville, KY. They are expecting 10,000 attendees at about $269/registrant for total receipts of about $2.69 million dollars.  (The conference centre and 22,000 seat arena rents for about $560K with production costs of up to $1 million for an estimated profit of $1 million.  We'd like to see the financials. Plus they all sell their books there too.)  C.J. will be featured alongside (Baptyrian or Presbabaptist) Ligon Duncan, Al Mohler, John Piper, Platt, DeYoung, Chandler, Anyabwile and others of the YRR-crowd, the "Young Restless Crowd" of new Calvinistic Baptists. Although essentially a Baptist event, there will be some break-out speakers with solid credentials from the Catholic faith of the Reformation churches, but they are few.  The Mahaney-saga continues although there appears to be a tap-down on information.

http://livingtext.wordpress.com/2011/07/14/josh-harris-resigns/

Events are in the saddle and the landscape is changing fast at Sovereign Grace Ministries. Josh Harris is now stepping down from the SGM board, per this announcement. It is probably a wise move by Harris, allowing him to disassociate himself from what is beginning to look like a circle the wagons mentality on the part of the SGM board. It also helps him be a pastor – his main duty – during a crisis for his denomination.

Again and again this points out to me that we need small parishes of 150-300 people, coupled with faithful pastors and a clear structure. The whole big shot, super-star, cult of personality model of ministry should be put to death.

Wednesday, July 13, 2011

SGM and Mahaney: Cult-Proofing Insiders and Outsiders

http://www.sgmsurvivors.com/?p=2421&cpage=1#comment-37505

Patricia July 13th, 2011 at 10:31 am  

Is SGM a cult? Questions to ask yourself:

1. Does the group leader have a special charm and persuasion that its people find inexplicable and hard to resist? Yes. Mahaney is a celebrity often receiving thunderous applause when he speaks. In the minds of many, he can do no wrong.

2. Do the people in the group seem a bit too friendly, loving, smiling and happy? Yes. New people are love bombed (a technique used in cult recruiting, in which membership in the cult is intimately linked to love and attachment which engender complete loyalty to the cause.)

3. Do the people in the group offer to help with almost anything church centered? Yes. Most are rarely involved with service outside SGM that spreads the Gospel to unbelievers. They mostly recruit people from other churches.

4. Does the group claim to have a special mission or calling that is unique and not found elsewhere? Yes. No other church emphasizes both the charismatic and reformed. The church music was created within SGM ranks. All pastors must attend the church’s own special college for SGM training.

5. Have many people and/or leaders have left the group and if so, why? Hundreds if not more. In fact SGM has a largely negative Internet presence as a result of people sharing concerns over abuse.

6. Are there any checks and balances of the leadership and power structure? No, the congregations have no input.

7. Does the group have a constitution or laws of government? No. If after the WikiLeak incident, one is formed, it appears that the people will have little voice in the content.

8. Do quite a few people talk about their pastor a lot, as though he is God? Yes, in fact in one sermon C.J. Mahaney said that when all believers stand before Christ for the first time, they will be surrounding their pastor and thanking Christ for him.

9. What is the group’s view on leadership authority and discipleship? The pastors are central and the congregant’s job is to make his pastor happy as described in Mahaney’s sermon “The Happiest Place on Earth”. Quote by C.J. Mahaney regarding the congregation’s role, “The effectiveness of pastoral ministry is dependent upon a proper response TO pastoral ministry.”

10. What is the group’s view on dating and marriage? Rigid styles of courtship are heavily encouraged and young people are carefully monitored in the congregation. Women are under the covering of their husbands and fathers, and have very little voice outside the sphere of things pertaining to women.

11. Is there an elitist mentality? Yes. Many view SGM as superior due to its understanding of the importance of both the charismatic and the reformed, along with recognition of giftings. This is used to keep people from considering other churches. Many who have left SGM were shunned. The SGM atmosphere is pharisaical.

12. How do your parents or close relations outside of the group feel about it? Many are concerned for those they love in SGM churches.

13. What are the finances of the group? Are there secrets? Yes, see http://www.wartburgwatch.com on Mahaney and Al Mohler.

14. Does the group motivate its members mostly through fear and guilt? Yes. Sin-sniffing is common through confessions in front of groups.

15. Have any articles been written about the group? Yes, the Internet has thousands of negative postings with several blogs focused on the abuses.

16. Are there disgruntled former members? Yes, a great many.

17. Do the disgruntled former members all more or less tell a similar story to why they left? Yes, most describe pastoral abuse but even sexual abuse has occurred and been ignored by the leadership.

18. Did they leave because they disagreed with either the teachings or the practices of the group or its leader? Yes.

19. How was the disagreement handled? Through shunning and shaming. No direct acknowledgement of abuses toward individual members has arisen even after the WikiLeaks expose.

20. Does your gut level feeling about this group tell you that something is wrong? Yes.

Questions taken from Paul Martin’s book Cult Proofing Your Kids.

Tuesday, July 12, 2011

Mohler Forcefully Defends C.J. Mahaney

Additional reasons to steer clear of these neo-Calvinist, Young, Restless, Revivalist, New School, Edwardsean, Baptyerian "Enthusiasts."  Anabaptist Al Mohler and Baptyerian Ligon Duncan have known of the Baptacostalism of SGM--tongues, prophecies and the like, yet have sovereignly elected to endorse SGM and have him serve on their board at APE (Alliance of Professing Evangelicals, once called Alliance of Confessing Evangelicals).  As old school Calvinistic Anglicans, we cannot get involved with these "enthusiasts." Bad form and bad taste.  No Prayer Book and no Anglican doctrine, worship and piety. 

http://blogs.courier-journal.com/faith/2011/07/12/mohler-backs-mahaney-dismisses-accusations-of-abusive-leadership/

Mohler backs Mahaney, dismisses claims of abusive leadership


 
C.J. Mahaney autographs an admirer’s book at last year’s Together for the Gospel conference in Louisville. (Peter Smith photo)
 
Seminary president Albert Mohler is forcefully defending C.J. Mahaney, a Maryland pastor and popular author who has taken a leave of absence over allegations of spiritually abusive and dictatorial practices in church network he leads.

C.J. Mahaney, longtime president of the Sovereign Grace Ministries, has acknowledged the accuracy of some of the charges against him, including failing to be held to accountable by others in his church network and using coercive tactics in a dispute with an estranged colleague with whom he has since reconciled.

"I always have had only the highest estimation of C.J. Mahaney as a man and a minister," Mohler said in an interview — his first public comments on the situation involving Mahaney, one of his fellow leaders in the Reformed, neo-Calvinist movement. "That continues absolutely unchanged. There is nothing in this current situation which would leave me to have even the slightest pause of confidence in him."

Mohler, president of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, has worked closely with Mahaney for years as leaders of a revival of teaching on Calvinist theology,male authority and church discipline among some conservative evangelicals.

Mohler said he believes Mahaney and the Sovereign Grace board are being prudent in planning an independent investigation from people outside the denomination to make sure those involved are above reproach.

But Mohler has already drawn his own conclusions.

He based that on hundreds of pages leaked to the Internet last week, detailing correspondence between Mahaney, his main accuser and former colleague, Brent Detwiler, and other Sovereign Grace leaders.
"There is nothing disqualifying in terms of anything that is disclosed in this," said Mohler, who regularly speaks on programs along with Mahaney. "It’s just evidence we knew all along, that C.J. is human but a deeply committed Christian and a visionary Christian leader."

Sovereign Grace itself is taking a more cautious approach. A statement from its board called the allegations "serious."

"These charges are not related to any immorality or financial impropriety, but this doesn’t minimize their serious nature, which include various expressions of pride, unentreatability (inability to accept correction, deceit, sinful judgment, and hypocrisy," the board said. (One reader last week wondered how the board was defining "immorality" in light of that catalogue of sins.)

And in a Sunday sermon, Mahaney’s successor as pastor of the denomination’s flagship congregation, Covenant Life Church in Gaithersburg, Md., refused to downplay them.

"We are walking through what is without any exaggeration the most difficult challenge that we’ve faced as a church," said the pastor, Joshua Harris.

Harris called his former mentor a "father in the faith to many of us" but that Mahaney had "confessed to some of these sins" while disagreeing with others.

"It is as bad as it seems, and it is the fault of your leaders, and we desperately need the help of God and the wisdom and the accountability of the people who have looked to our leadership to sort through this mess," he said.

In his own statements, Mahaney said that "God is disciplining me for my sin and leadership failures and I am very grateful for this discipline."

"I was difficult to entreat," he told the Covenant Life congregation Sunday night. "I sinfully judged their motives. I was arrogantly confident in my perception."

Mahaney has been in ministry since the 1970s, when the one-time drug enthusiast was converted to Christianity through the hippie-friendly Jesus Movement, according to the 2008 book, "Young Restless, Reformed," by Collin Hansen.

The bald-headed Mahaney captures audiences with his earnestly enunciated phrases and a broad circumference of gestures. His popular books include one titled, "Humility: True Greatness."

The Maryland-based Sovereign Grace network has a network of 97 churches in the United States and abroad, many on the East Coast, known for their unusual combination of Reformed theology and a history of Pentecostal-like spiritual gifts such as divine prophecy. None of its congregations are listed in Kentucky and Indiana, although Mahaney has spoken to enthusiastic crowds in Louisville this February at Southern Seminary and last year at the Kentucky International Convention Center.
Mahaney’s leave follows years of once-secret deliberations among its leaders. The dialogue reflects a specialized vocabulary of a culture within Sovereign Grace of relentless scrtunity of one’s own sins and those of other members.

Detwiler, who resigned from his positions in the Sovereign Grace movement in 2009 after years of conflict with Mahaney, had documented the conflict in more than 600 pages of emails between him, Mahaney and other movement leaders. He included hundreds of footnotes, fastidiously parsing others’ words and phrases.as inaccurate or reflecting incomplete repentance.

Detwiler recently circulated them among all Sovereign Grace pastors, and someone posted them anonymously online last week under the label, "sgmwikileaks."

Harris confirmed the correspondence was authentic, that much was accurate but that some allegations remain in dispute.

Detwiler charged Mahaney with dishonesty, "spiritual abuse and manipulation," dismissing critics as embittered and failing to accept the harsh correction he doled out on others. For example, Detwiler said he failed to confess sins publicly and described general vices he was guilty of — without naming specifics or those he may have hurt through them. Detwiler said he did forgave Mahaney for areas in which he felt his repentance was genuine but felt justified in seeking vindication for things Detwiler feels false accused of.

For example, Detwiler said Mahaney’s scathing review of his job performance were unfairly and had a major role in Detwiler’s ultimate departure from the North Carolina church he led and were harmful to his family. Mahaney disputes this.

Mohler said he saw no reason for Mahaney to take a leave from other leadership positions.

Mohler, Mahaney and two other ministers share leadership of the group Together for the Gospel, which has brought thousands of mostly young pastors and other attendees to conferences such as one held last year at the Kentucky International Convention Center. They are also on the board of a similar group, the Gospel Coalition, according to the group’s Web site.

"I assume he would retain every position in leadership," Mohler said. "I expect he should be very quickly returned to leadership of Sovereign Grace."

Mohler contended that Detwiler has "an obvious vendetta" against Mahaney and attributed the document dump on the Internet to him.

UPDATE: Detwiler said in comments via email this morning:
"I have nothing but respect for Dr. Mohler. He is a remarkable man and done incalculable good in Southern Baptist circles and the Body of Christ at large. People everywhere should listen to his radio broadcasts and read his published materials. I am sure his friendship and support is a great source of comfort to C.J. during this challenging time."
"-Sovereign Grace Ministries has been a wonderful organization committed to planting Gospel-centered churches in the United States and parts abroad. There are many outstanding pastors and people in the denomination. But temptation and sin come with rapid growth and recognition. That was especially true for C.J. and we did not serve him well by allowing him to play by a different set of rules – a double standard. We certainly share the blame for his fall. But C.J. genuinely loves the Lord and people so I am confident he will respond to God’s discipline in his life.
Detwiler also said he did not post the materials on the Internet but has become aware of the person who did. Mohler’s characterization of his motive as a vendetta, he said, "constitutes an uncharitable judgment but one I understand given his close relationship with C.J. He is defending his friend and that is admirable."

UPDATE: Mahaney rotated off the board of the Council for Biblical Manhood and Womanhood in December, which is housed at Southern Seminary and promotes male authority in churches and homes. He is listed on the site as vice-chairman, as an earlier version of this post noted, but the council has not updated its Web site, said Randy Stinson, the council president and a seminary dean. Stinson said the rotation was routine and unrelated to the circumstances of Mahaney’s leave from Sovereign Grace.

The Sovereign Grace network is separate from the Southern Baptist Convention, the affiliate of Southern Seminary, but Mohler praised Mahaney’s group as "one of the most vital movements of church planting and evangelism and church development in this generation."

Mohler added: "Any time you’re going to take on the role of leadership, you’re going to have critics."
Mohler also supported Sovereign Grace’s highly centralized leadership structure in its churches, with "very strong pastoral direction" and internal discipline.

"It’s something clearly called for in the New Testament," he said.

Mohler said he knew this practice has had online critics for years.

"Basically there are people who are very uncomfortable with the strong kind of spiritual direction that comes through the Sovereign Grace Ministries," Mohler said. "It’s very hard to criticize it on biblical terms, as you’ll see on most of those Web sites. It basically comes down to the criticism, ‘I don’t like that.’"

Many of those attending the conferences led by Mohler, Mahaney and others are young pastors and others described by Hansen’s book title as "Young Restless, Reformed." They often are marked by goatees, shaved heads and/or cargo shorts and by their earnest focus on the doctrines of the 16th century Protestant Reformer John Calvin and those influenced by him, from Puritan devotional poetry to the 19th century sermons of Charles Spurgeon.

The Sovereign Grace Ministries name, in fact, echoes Calvin’s emphasis on God’s power (sovereignty) and favor (grace) rather than human works in achieving salvation. Calvinist thought predominates at Southern Seminary, and a denominational survey found nearly 30 percent of recent graduates from all Southern Baptist seminaries who are now serving as pastors identified with Calvinism.

The movement also emphasizes church discipline and male authority.

The Together for the Gospel conference at the convention center last year drew a mostly young, mostly male crowd of several thousand from around the nation and abroad, eagerly soaking up teachings and free books. They lined up between sessions to have their pictures taken with Mahaney and other prominent speakers, such as Mohler and Minnesota pastor John Piper.