Reformed Churchmen

We are Confessional Calvinists and a Prayer Book Church-people. In 2012, we remembered the 350th anniversary of the 1662 Book of Common Prayer; also, we remembered the 450th anniversary of John Jewel's sober, scholarly, and Reformed "An Apology of the Church of England." In 2013, we remembered the publication of the "Heidelberg Catechism" and the influence of Reformed theologians in England, including Heinrich Bullinger's Decades. For 2014: Tyndale's NT translation. For 2015, John Roger, Rowland Taylor and Bishop John Hooper's martyrdom, burned at the stakes. Books of the month. December 2014: Alan Jacob's "Book of Common Prayer" at: http://www.amazon.com/Book-Common-Prayer-Biography-Religious/dp/0691154813/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1417814005&sr=8-1&keywords=jacobs+book+of+common+prayer. January 2015: A.F. Pollard's "Thomas Cranmer and the English Reformation: 1489-1556" at: http://www.amazon.com/Thomas-Cranmer-English-Reformation-1489-1556/dp/1592448658/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1420055574&sr=8-1&keywords=A.F.+Pollard+Cranmer. February 2015: Jaspar Ridley's "Thomas Cranmer" at: http://www.amazon.com/Thomas-Cranmer-Jasper-Ridley/dp/0198212879/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1422892154&sr=8-1&keywords=jasper+ridley+cranmer&pebp=1422892151110&peasin=198212879

Sunday, July 17, 2011

More from Detwiler on the Mahaney-SGM-Eruptions

There appears to be little abatement in the Mahaney-SGM-eruptions.  The unedifying yet illuminating saga continues.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=695090287#!/notes/brent-detwiler/liar-liar-pants-on-fire/245919768768928

Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire


by Brent Detwiler on Sunday, July 17, 2011 at 12:13am
Here’s what the new Board of Directors posted on the SGM blog this past Wednesday.

“In light of the fact that C.J. has now been publicly accused with no opportunity to defend himself, the board of Sovereign Grace has made the following resolutions. That Brent Detwiler’s refusal to participate in mediation with C.J. Mahaney—unless Mahaney first agrees (a) to publish an extensive written response to each of Detwiler’saccusations and (b) to make a public confession prior to any mediation or impartial evaluation of his charges—is unjust and constitutes a denial of biblically grounded due process for a qualified minister of the gospel.”

A few comments. First, C.J. has been defending himself for years. That's been the problem. Second, my accusations are not new. Third, there is no need for further evaluation or outside evaluation. There is a need for leadership from the Board of Directors. We've been evaluating, confronting, and dealing with C.J. for over a decade. It is time for disciplinary action. But here's what's "unjust and constitutes a denial of biblically grounded due process."

Lie 1. I never asked C.J. to publish an extensive written response to each of my accusations. I asked him to provide a private and thorough response to me in writing. He promised to do so but then violated his word.

Lie 2. I asked C.J. to agree that a public confession of sin was necessary before we met; not that he had to made a confession before we met. I never refused to meet with him (or a mediator) until after a public confession of sin was complete.

Lie 3. The Board says say nothing about my eagerness to meet. That is plain in all my writings. I laid out two simple conditions. First, C.J. needed to provide me an open, honest and accountable response to the issues, questions, and illustrations I raised. Second, I needed to know C.J. took his sins seriously and was willing to confess them to the movement and its leaders. A private written response and a willingness to confess in public – that’s all I asked. No more.

All of these points are crystal clear in what I have written in “The Documents.” I am afraid Dave and Jeff’s pants are ablaze and the pants of the new board members are smoking.

1 comment:

Anonymous said...

From what I've read, Detwiler wanted an extensive written response to his various concerns and charges and would not meet with C.J. without such. Has refused to meet with Peacemakers.

Seneca Griggs