Reformed Churchmen

We are Confessional Calvinists and a Prayer Book Church-people. In 2012, we remembered the 350th anniversary of the 1662 Book of Common Prayer; also, we remembered the 450th anniversary of John Jewel's sober, scholarly, and Reformed "An Apology of the Church of England." In 2013, we remembered the publication of the "Heidelberg Catechism" and the influence of Reformed theologians in England, including Heinrich Bullinger's Decades. For 2014: Tyndale's NT translation. For 2015, John Roger, Rowland Taylor and Bishop John Hooper's martyrdom, burned at the stakes. Books of the month. December 2014: Alan Jacob's "Book of Common Prayer" at: http://www.amazon.com/Book-Common-Prayer-Biography-Religious/dp/0691154813/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1417814005&sr=8-1&keywords=jacobs+book+of+common+prayer. January 2015: A.F. Pollard's "Thomas Cranmer and the English Reformation: 1489-1556" at: http://www.amazon.com/Thomas-Cranmer-English-Reformation-1489-1556/dp/1592448658/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1420055574&sr=8-1&keywords=A.F.+Pollard+Cranmer. February 2015: Jaspar Ridley's "Thomas Cranmer" at: http://www.amazon.com/Thomas-Cranmer-Jasper-Ridley/dp/0198212879/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1422892154&sr=8-1&keywords=jasper+ridley+cranmer&pebp=1422892151110&peasin=198212879

Saturday, October 17, 2009

Ernest Evangelical Debates Cardinal Cassidy on the Gospel

This sounds like a discussion between the Windbag at Virtueonline and his dysfunctional ACNA family, with it's incurable, long term, split-personalities disorder. "By whillikers, we all love Jesus, that's good enough for me."

http://heidelblog.wordpress.com/2009/02/26/was-the-reformation-a-big-misunderstanding/#comment-12413

Was the Reformation a Big Misunderstanding?
Posted on February 26, 2009
by R. Scott Clark

Jason raises that provocative question at De Regnis Duobus.

This topic has arisen before on the HB. Not long ago we discovered that, contrary to some suggestions, the Pope is, in fact, not a Protestant. Before that we saw that, contrary to the assertion of Mark Noll and Carolyn Nystrom, the Reformation is not over. Indeed, in many places it’s not even begun!

If the case is so clear, why then does the question keep coming up? The short answer is that people want the Reformation to go away. It gets in the way of the social programs of the social conservatives and the social liberals.

The socially conservative evangelicals don’t have a doctrine of two kingdoms so the only way they can cooperate with Roman Catholics on social questions is to get them converted and baptized. They don’t really care much about the sacraments any more so they’re content just to get them converted and thus metaphorically baptized. They don’t have time for a real, old-fashioned tent meeting any more (that takes too long!) so they hold a mini-revival right there:

Earnest Evangelical: “Cardinal Cassidy, have you been born again? Have you invited Jesus into your heart?”

Cassidy: “Faith now and begorrah! I was born again in 1976, the year of the evangelical!”

EE: “Wowie, that’s great! Do you love Jesus?”

CC: “Mary, Joseph, and You-Know-Whom, Sure I do!”

EE: “Do you have a quiet time?”

CC: “Well, we call it ‘canonical hours’ but sure. We’ve been having ‘quiet times’ since the rule of St. Basil was first written.

CC: “Wowie, well if you’re born again, if you have a quiet time, and if you love Jesus, you must be an evangelical and just don’t know it. I’ll bet we really agree, deep down, on justification.”

CC: “Sure we do. Every real Christian is a Roman Catholic in his heart. Vatican II said so. We believe in sanctification by grace and faith formed by love and so do you.

EE: “That’s good enough for me. We both love Jesus. We both have quiet times. We’re both born again. We both believe in grace and faith. I guess the Reformation really was a big mistake. Boy oh boy! That Luther, what a numbskull! Now that we have that out of the way, what are going to do about….?”

Now that Cassidy is ritually “clean,” EE can cooperate with him toward whatever social end they might have in view.

The case for our conscientious mainliner is a little more complicated. More on that tomorrow, Dv.

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