A TFO-commenter on the English Reformation. (Trust me, I've seen far more brutal comments.) This comes from Virtue's article at: http://www.virtueonline.org/portal/modules/news/article.php?storyid=18648#.UxDoqsKYZjo. Trevor, Crap Wednesday is near, show up in crap-clothes to get crap affixed to your head. No breath mints allowed. Then, learn some doctrine and history, wild jackass. (See Jeremiah 2.24 below.)
"Trevor Crichton
"Bp. Iker’s sermon on “Orthodox Anglican Unity” appears to be one step shy of Dean Salmon’s blunder at Nashotah House a week ago. I cannot speak for other devout and traditionalist Anglo-Catholics, but I for one do not agree with Bp. Iker’s attempt to place a veneer over our Anglo-Catholic Faith which precedes and precludes the Protestant Reformation in England. It is a blatant fact that The Reformed Episcopal Church is presently undergoing its own apostasy irrespective of that which The Episcopal Church has already accomplished. But at the same time the REC still does not believe whole-heartedly in the “Real Presence” (Transubstantiation), nor do they consider ordination and matrimony Sacraments. Yes we both agree that Women’s Ordination is non-Scriptural, or that same-sex marriages are sinful and unnatural for the intended purpose of marriage which is for procreation, and even that the propagation of liberal-progressive-Anglicanism is a great evil devised by the Father of Lies. At that point our unity ends between us. True unity between devout Anglo-Catholics and the REC will never be attained at the cost of embracing the apostasy of our own Catholic theology and faith, any more than the REC will ever become truly Anglo-Catholic. This divide between High & Low Church within the Church of England and its American counterpart the "Protestant" Episcopal Church has coexisted for over five hundred years. Unless the larger portion of Protestant Evangelicals in the ACNA comprehend this the Anglo-Catholic minority can and will eventually separate from that church. We cannot change each other's theological point of view; we can only tolerate the other faction's right to coexist with us as it has always been. Baring this, there will never be true unity."
Jeremiah 2:24
1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)
24 And as a wild [a]ass used to the wilderness that snuffeth up the wind by occasion at her pleasure: who can turn her back? all they that seek her, will not weary themselves, but will find her in her [b]month.
Footnotes:
a .Jeremiah 2:24 He compareth the idolaters to a wild ass: for she can never be tamed nor yet wearied: for as she runneth she can take her wind at every occasion.
b. Jeremiah 2:24 That is, when she is with foal, and therefore the hunters wait their time: so though thou canst not be turned back now from thine idolatry, yet when thine iniquity shall be at the fall, God will meet with thee.
"Trevor Crichton
"Bp. Iker’s sermon on “Orthodox Anglican Unity” appears to be one step shy of Dean Salmon’s blunder at Nashotah House a week ago. I cannot speak for other devout and traditionalist Anglo-Catholics, but I for one do not agree with Bp. Iker’s attempt to place a veneer over our Anglo-Catholic Faith which precedes and precludes the Protestant Reformation in England. It is a blatant fact that The Reformed Episcopal Church is presently undergoing its own apostasy irrespective of that which The Episcopal Church has already accomplished. But at the same time the REC still does not believe whole-heartedly in the “Real Presence” (Transubstantiation), nor do they consider ordination and matrimony Sacraments. Yes we both agree that Women’s Ordination is non-Scriptural, or that same-sex marriages are sinful and unnatural for the intended purpose of marriage which is for procreation, and even that the propagation of liberal-progressive-Anglicanism is a great evil devised by the Father of Lies. At that point our unity ends between us. True unity between devout Anglo-Catholics and the REC will never be attained at the cost of embracing the apostasy of our own Catholic theology and faith, any more than the REC will ever become truly Anglo-Catholic. This divide between High & Low Church within the Church of England and its American counterpart the "Protestant" Episcopal Church has coexisted for over five hundred years. Unless the larger portion of Protestant Evangelicals in the ACNA comprehend this the Anglo-Catholic minority can and will eventually separate from that church. We cannot change each other's theological point of view; we can only tolerate the other faction's right to coexist with us as it has always been. Baring this, there will never be true unity."
Jeremiah 2:24
1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)
24 And as a wild [a]ass used to the wilderness that snuffeth up the wind by occasion at her pleasure: who can turn her back? all they that seek her, will not weary themselves, but will find her in her [b]month.
Footnotes:
a .Jeremiah 2:24 He compareth the idolaters to a wild ass: for she can never be tamed nor yet wearied: for as she runneth she can take her wind at every occasion.
b. Jeremiah 2:24 That is, when she is with foal, and therefore the hunters wait their time: so though thou canst not be turned back now from thine idolatry, yet when thine iniquity shall be at the fall, God will meet with thee.
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