Thursday, November 10, 2011

SGM-Mahaneygate: Tweets about Twats

Tweets about these twats in SGM.  I've never seen anything like it.  They're allegedly hosting 60-80 defrocked clerics plus maybe 100 more, at a reconciliation event, being run by Lutherans, while CJ is "center-stage" at their Conference, 10-12 Nov 2011. We're thankful for the tweeterizers, in this case, SGM Nation.

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We need to connect dots – [explicit] about "we used to believe this, now we believe this" - DH
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Address. polity particulars: clarity on how is board appointed, where does board member derive authority, qualific of board member-DH
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We've identified 3 broad categories – polity particulars, pastoral practice and communication - Dave H
 
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We realized we had to win back confidence…Some pastors had no lack of confidence...any lack of confidence is too much- Dave H
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We realized we couldn’t adjudicate and defend SGM at the same time - Dave H
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[when Brent's docs were released] pastors were thinking, “what else don’t I know” - Dave H on the loss of trust amng SGM pastors
 
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Our most immediate problem was not critics or polity–it was a shaking of confidence in leadership of SGM – Dave H on managing crisis
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Some see systemic prob, others see need for refinemnt w impulse 2 defend [SGM/CJ]..pastors of SGM are far from monolithic on issues-DH
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Seeing you (CJ) up here, reminds me that I miss your leadership... Dave H
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We need to be courageous-we do humility well, we don't do courageous well.. [went on to speak of tackling slander & the divisive] CJ
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SGM is a gospel preaching movement, by God’s grace, we will continue to be gospel preaching movement - CJ
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.It would not be good leadership to leave u w areas of deficiency. Do we have problems? Yes..they do not define us & our churches -CJ
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I’ve acceptd a managerial role and I’m not a mgr, I’m a pastor.For past 8 years, I havn’t been an elder..I hope that changes soon.- CJ
 
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I can change quickly..hv no prob making decisions quickly. doesn’t serve an org..some thngs require discussn, questions & mor discussn.
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"I wish I had defended myself – I wrongly concluded it wouldn’t be humble of me to defend myself"- CJ
 
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"I am hopeful because any or all deficiencies will be and can be addressed...it is our history to do so" - CJ
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Updating quotes from CJ & Dave H coming up shortly - ones I missed from last couple days
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Not at conf - skipping last session but will be posting more quotes from CJ, Dave H that I didn't get to yesterday.
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Perspective- CJ Family Update most disappointing session. IMHO-Wrong tone,wrong attitude. Disclaim: not judging or being divisive ;-)
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Perspective -Purswell and Kober sessions so far the most positive signs of change and right direction. Right tone, right attitude
 
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sorry-not meant to be disheart. would you rather not know?
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Ex: Change to statemt_faith will be reviewed by all ordained pastors & req. 2/3 agreement...instead of handed down like 10 cmmandmnts
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Proposed church partnership agreement is a decent start- still open issues but at least putting practices to involve member churches
 
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We’re in a period of institutionalization – it will help make our relationships healthier - JP
 
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JP speaking of desire to broaden board composition – also covering how grievances against board members will be included in procedures
 
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JP affirmed a couple of times in outset that extralocal, apostolic function is still valid and biblically supported
 
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JP going over draft church partnership agreement meant to capture refinements, bring more specificity to our relationship w member churches
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We are meeting w each pastoral team to discuss this on your turf, not just have you come to Gaithersburg…. JP
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Polity is not just theology – there are structural elements to this - when we have 90+ churches, we need your input - JP
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We’re not looking for polity fixes – we want refinements, structures that are durable - JP
 
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Although polity is not our most important doctrinal commitment but it matters to how we work together - JP
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Jefff Purswell up - polity discussion starting
 
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Bob K - closed worship w Amazing Grace - enthusiastic singing. When dismissed, a few claps..somewhat muted - maybe everyone's tired.

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