Also, a lovely refutation of John MacArthur at www.sinnersandsaintsradio.com. MacArthur offers his ill-based views at: http://www.gty.org/resources/sermons/80-369/is-infant-baptism-biblical#.TqfTFpySOVJ. We will be linking and reviewing future podcasts from them. In the meantime, www.twoagespilgrims.com is below.
http://www.twoagespilgrims.com/doctrine/?p=11160
The above quote is from the closing prayer of John MacArthur after he preached a sermon entitled, “Is Infant Baptism Biblical?” last month. In his sermon, he attacks infant baptism as unbiblical and from the devil, the Reformation as incomplete, and the Reformed Confessions as wrong, specifically Heidelberg Catechism Q&A 74.
Now, I’m a minister of a Reformed paedobaptist federation, and I have many Baptist friends, but I have never heard any of them call infant baptism “devilish.” So, if he accuses our paedobaptist view as “devilish,” I’m tossing the grenade back to his lap: John MacArthur’s credobaptism is straight from the devil!
The people at “Sinners and Saints” (pastors John Sawtelle, Adam Kaloostian, and Movses Janbazian) summarize JMac’s erratic, amateurish fivefold argument as:
JMac’s method “is in great error and should not be followed … [and] leads to a wholesale misinterpretation of the text of Scripture.” This is why JMac’s credobaptist interpretation is unbiblical and therefore “devilish.” The Reformed Westminster Confession of Faith Chapter 28 Paragraph 5 is very strong about this error:
You can read the whole transcript of JMac’s sermon here. Then listen to the “Sinners and Saints” episodes below as you consider JMac’s gross and devilish assertions:
Sinners and Saints Radio Episode 3
Follow the links to Episodes 4-6.
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“This devilish conduct of infant Baptism has survived through two thousand years of church life from very early on, the third century, embedded in the fourth and still here. We could only ask, Lord, that the Reformation would be a complete Reformation.”
The above quote is from the closing prayer of John MacArthur after he preached a sermon entitled, “Is Infant Baptism Biblical?” last month. In his sermon, he attacks infant baptism as unbiblical and from the devil, the Reformation as incomplete, and the Reformed Confessions as wrong, specifically Heidelberg Catechism Q&A 74.
Now, I’m a minister of a Reformed paedobaptist federation, and I have many Baptist friends, but I have never heard any of them call infant baptism “devilish.” So, if he accuses our paedobaptist view as “devilish,” I’m tossing the grenade back to his lap: John MacArthur’s credobaptism is straight from the devil!
The people at “Sinners and Saints” (pastors John Sawtelle, Adam Kaloostian, and Movses Janbazian) summarize JMac’s erratic, amateurish fivefold argument as:
1) The words “infant” and “baptism” are nowhere used in conjunction in the NT. Therefore infant baptism is not in the Bible. Where is the word “Trinity” found in the Bible? This is the ridiculously puerile exegesis used by Jehovah’s Witnesses, Mormons and other cults.
2) The lexical evidence of the NT indicates that the Greek word for baptize points conclusively to baptism by immersion. Infant baptism fails to satisfy that condition because the form of infant baptism is sprinkling. Therefore infant baptism is not baptism. JMac should do his own translation of Mark 10:38, “Are you able to drink the cup that I drink, or to be immersed with the immersion with which I am immersed?” Or Mark 7:4, where the Pharisees are said to observe many traditions, “such as the immersing of cups and pots and copper vessels and dining couches.”
3) Baptism does not replace circumcision. He denies this, of course, because the moment a Baptist accepts this, he becomes a Presbyterian. The absence of Colossians 2:11-12 from his sermon is highly suspicious. He even said this, “Circumcision didn’t apply to girls. Circumcision was really a gift from God to protect Jewish women from forms of infection, to protect and preserve the nation.” Ouch! How silly can the eminent doctor be to say this? He forgot a very familiar passage about someone named Abraham and his descendants, Genesis 17:10-11. This one statement show his penchant for hex-egesis.
4) Infant baptism confuses soteriology and ecclesiology. With his confused soteriology and ecclesiology, JMac is confused when he says, “There’s sort of this collective community of believing people brought in by Baptism will eventually jettison the true doctrine of justification by faith and individual personal salvation.” In the 500-year history of Reformed churches who have been faithful to the true Reformed faith, how many of them have jettisoned true doctrine? How about Baptist churches—does he see the miniscule percentage of Baptist churches who have kept Reformed soteriology?
5) Infant baptism is inconsistent with Reformed soteriology. Why would he say this? Does he consider himself—a dispensationalist and a Baptist—as Reformed? These two things are anathema to the Reformation! “Paedo-Baptism, to say it another way, destroys the reality of a regenerate church.” What is a “regenerate” church: a church in which all—100 percent—members the pastor and elders are sure to be “regenerate” or elect? I’m sure he thinks of his Grace Community Church as a community of thousands of baptized members, every single one of them God’s elect. Wow, the third mark of a true church is a waste in his ecclesiology.
The primary reason for this confusion is his evangelical–not Reformed–definition of what water baptism means. To him, it means a person’s testimony to the church of his personal faith in Christ. And with infants, this is impossible, so infants must not be baptized. Reformed Confessions are very clear on what baptism is and what it is not:
Belgic Confession Article 34: We believe that these children ought to be baptized and sealed with the sign of the covenant, as infants were circumcised in Israel on the basis of the same promises which are now made to our children.
Heidelberg Catechism Question 74: Are infants also to be baptized? Answer: Yes … they are also by Baptism, as a sign of the covenant, to be ingrafted into the Christian Church, and distinguished from the children of unbelievers, as was done in the Old Testament by circumcision, in place of which in the New Testament Baptism is appointed.
Second Helvetic Confession Chapter 20:6: We condemn the Anabaptists, who deny that young infants, born of faithful parents, are to be baptized. For, according to the doctrine of the gospel, “for of such is the kingdom of God” (Luke 18:16), and they are written in the covenant of God (Acts 3:25). Why, then, should not the sign of the covenant of God be given to them? Why should they not be consecrated by holy baptism, who are God’s peculiar people and are in the Church of God?
Westminster Confession of Faith 28:1: Baptism is a sacrament of the New Testament, ordained by Jesus Christ, not only for the solemn admission of the party baptized into the visible Church; but also to be unto him a sign and seal of the covenant of grace, of his ingrafting into Christ, of regeneration, of remission of sins, and of his giving up unto God, through Jesus Christ, to walk in the newness of life.
Westminster Shorter Catechism 94 (cf W. Larger C. Q&A 165): Question: What is baptism? Answer: Baptism is a sacrament, wherein the washing with water in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, signify and seal our ingrafting into Christ, and partaking of the benefits of the covenant of grace, and our engagement to be the Lord’s.
Baptism, therefore, is not a person’s testimony of faith, not what he/she has done. Baptism is a sign and seal of God’s covenant of grace with man, what God has done, and not what man has done. So from the most basic doctrine, the difference between Baptist and Reformed doctrine of the sacraments is heaven and earth, God’s sovereignty vs. man’s “free will” decision, God-centered vs. man-centered practice. Read: “Why John MacArthur is Not Reformed” by Dr. Kim Riddlebarger.
JMac’s method “is in great error and should not be followed … [and] leads to a wholesale misinterpretation of the text of Scripture.” This is why JMac’s credobaptist interpretation is unbiblical and therefore “devilish.” The Reformed Westminster Confession of Faith Chapter 28 Paragraph 5 is very strong about this error:
Although it be a great sin to contemn or neglect this ordinance, yet grace and salvation are not so inseparably annexed unto it, as that no person can be regenerated, or saved, without it; or, that all that are baptized are undoubtedly regenerated.
You can read the whole transcript of JMac’s sermon here. Then listen to the “Sinners and Saints” episodes below as you consider JMac’s gross and devilish assertions:
Sinners and Saints Radio Episode 3
Follow the links to Episodes 4-6.
Actually I thought his article was wonderful and vividly illustrated the simple and clear teachings of Jesus and the apostles with regard to baptism.
ReplyDeleteHistorically whether in Germany (Karl Barth) or Denmark (Soren Kierkagaard) or the UK ... baptism of infants has been a disaster. It is not obeying Jesus' commands to immerse disciples of all nations and to teach disciples of all nations all that he commanded his disciples to do.
regards,
Keith
Best wishes,
Keith
Actually I thought his article remarkably lucid and clear.
ReplyDeleteJesus and his disciples commanded believers or disciples or followers of Christ to be baptised.
Jesus placed clear barriers between discipleship and non-discipleship ... a willingness to take up the cross, a willingness to deny self, a willingness to count the cost - luke 14.
Only by baptising disciples/believers who have faith and have repented will the church be obeying the command to make disciples of all nations and to baptise those disciples and to teach those disciples all that Jesus commanded his disciples.
1 Peter 3 ... baptism is a response of a good conscience to God ...
regards,
Keith
Actually I thought his article was wonderful and vividly illustrated the simple and clear teachings of Jesus and the apostles with regard to baptism.
ReplyDeleteHistorically whether in Germany (Karl Barth) or Denmark (Soren Kierkagaard) or the UK ... baptism of infants has been a disaster. It is not obeying Jesus' commands to immerse disciples of all nations and to teach disciples of all nations all that he commanded his disciples to do.
regards,
Keith
Best wishes,
Keith
Overstatements of the worst kind.
ReplyDeleteHmmm I've gotta admit that it wasn't a very nice how are you introductory post. Also I've inadvertently sent 3 posts when only intending one.
ReplyDeleteThe only one that really counts is the one that has the query as to how infant baptism could be reconciled with Jesus' placing of the most restrictive barriers on those who would follow him / be his disciples. They had to be willing take up the cross daily, to deny self, to count the cost (Luke 14), to be steadfast in continuing to obey his words (john 8:31/32).
I've come across nobody else asking this question so I'm doing it. Also although it may seem the height of hypocrisy I'm asking this question and trying to get some challenge to the gauntlet because only a matter of weeks ago I sprinkled a couple of babies on their heads in a beautiful service ....
Sincerely,
Keith