Tuesday, September 8, 2009

The Stuff David Virtue didn't tell Dr. Michael Horton in the interview with White Horse Inn

The stuff that the advocate for "Orthodox Anglicanism" doesn't talk about at Virtueonline.org and things he didn't mention to Dr. Mike Horton of White Horse Inn. Robin Jordan has his hands on it.

http://anglicansablaze.blogspot.com/2009/09/brief-z-of-acna.html
A Brief A-Z of the ACNA

By Robin G. JordanI gathered these definitions from the articles and comments of Catholics in the ACNA on the Internet. From what I understand these views are not representative of all Catholics in the ACNA but of one highly vocal group.

Anglicanism—the Catholic beliefs and practices of the English Church before the sixteenth century Reformation, partially restored by the Caroline divines in the seventeenth century and completely re-established by the Oxford movement in the nineteenth century. Among the beliefs of genuine Anglicanism are the doctrines of purgatory, eucharistic sacrifice, the Real Presence, baptismal regeneration, and tactual succession. Real Anglicans pray for the dead, practice auricular confession, invoke the Blessed Virgin Mary and the saints, venerate images and relics, and adore the consecrated host and carry it about in processions.

Anti-Catholic—saying anything that is even remotely critical of Catholic beliefs and practices. This includes suggesting that there are other views beside those held and taught by Catholics and these views represent a valid theological stream in Christianity and Anglicanism. It also includes not wholeheartedly and enthusiastically supporting the privileged status given Catholic ecclesiology and theology in the ACNA constitution and canons and embracing the vision of the ACNA as a province in which Catholicism is the dominant if not sole ecclesiological and theological school of thought.

Comprehensiveness—Those who espouse comprehensiveness are beset by the wild delusion that the ACNA was not created to be a Catholic province in North America but a province that would have a policy of recognizing divergent opinions in the church and in which other theological streams such as evangelicalism would grow and flourish alongside Catholicism. They are virulently anti-Catholic and are bent on extirpating Catholicism in the new province, rooting it out and destroying it utterly, even though they are not consciously aware of these tendencies. They suffer from a cognitive defect in failing to see the complete reasonableness of privileging and mandating the Catholic position or a Catholic position on key ecclesiological and theological issues.

Evangelical—not Catholic and therefore not orthodox in beliefs or practices. Those who identify themselves as “evangelical” but who tacitly agree with Catholic beliefs and practices or do not object to them are to be put up with since they may become Catholics over time with reeducation. Those who are ardent in their devotion to Protestant and Reformed principles, however, must be shut out of the ACNA. If they are already members of the ACNA, they must be harried out of the new province. This is absolutely essential to upholding the Catholic faith and Catholic order in the new province. Synonym: Heretical.

Reformed—Rabid bibliolatrous hyper-Calvinists on the fringe of Christianity and outside the Anglican mainstream, driven by an irrational fear and pathological hatred of Catholics and Catholicism and dedicated to the eradication of every trace of Catholicism in the ACNA and the purging of Catholics from the new province. Tolerant—aligning the provisions of the ACNA constitution and canons with the beliefs and practices of one particular theological grouping in the ACNA, that is, Catholicism and Catholics, and favoring this grouping over the other theological groupings in the ACNA. Acquiescing to Catholic beliefs and practices on secondary issues as well as primary ones. This includes accepting the Catholic classification of what is primary and what is secondary.

# posted by Robin G. Jordan @ 10:46 AM

Comments:
Robin, it would appear that you are granting these Romanists (not Catholics) the power to define the ACNA. Why?
# posted by DomWalk : 12:50 PM

On the contrary, Dom. I am drawing attention to how this particular group of Catholics is defining the ACNA. I am hoping that my readers will recognize the extremeness of their views. Most of them by the way are not Anglo-Papists and have no intention of becoming Roman Catholics. To read the comment that prompted this article, go to http://www.virtueonline.org/portal/modules/news/article.php?storyid=11073 and read the last entry on the thread.
# posted by Robin_G_Jordan : 1:17 PM

Your title, though, is "A Brief A-Z of the ACNA", implying that what follows are definitions with which you agree as defining the ACNA. Ok, so there's a small group of Romanists (not Catholics) who view the ACNA along the lines of their theology. Will you post the same for the Charismatics, the broad Evangelicals, the Affirmers and the Reformed? Or are you surrendering to the Romanists?
# posted by DomWalk : 6:38 PM

Regarding the Virtue Online comment. Yes, there is a whole bag of nuts on that site, including a few eccentrics who believe that Constantine was entirely apolitical and that Eastern Orthodoxy is the true Anglicanism. Whatever.

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